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Tariq should definitely refocus on reparations. His lives are now just roast sessions on tethers. The same tethers over and over. It’s gotten low vibrational and repetitive.

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Place of origin and bad actors. Tariq and even Yvette being the faces of these movements was a bad thing. I understand the need for both but they seem like people who are trying to get back at people as opposed to actually defining a cultural framework.
We already have a cultural framework, so there is no need for anyone to do that. Though, I have noticed some other Black ethnicities also like to claim that Black Americans have no culture.

As for the Place of origin, what do you mean by that? What does the place of origin have to do with it? I request more clarification on that point. I don't want to assume on what you are trying to state with that.

Tariq and Yvette may be the faces of it, and that is unfortunate, but they are not the totality of it. Just like Dr. Umar Johnson is a major face of US Pan-Africanism, but he is not the totality of that movement either. As long as some means of making money off an ideology is possible, even if it is only through donations, there will always be a grifter there ready to grift. That does not mean the ideology is wrong, because of said grifters.

Last, even with pointing at the grifters Yvette and Tariq, that still does not explain why it was perfectly fine for many other Black ethnicities to make sure everyone knew they were not Black American, but is not fine for some Black Americans now to agree and state they are right they are not one of us.
 

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As for the Place of origin, what do you mean by that? What does the place of origin have to do with it? I request more clarification on that point. I don't want to assume on what you are trying to state with that.
I feel like an argument used by non-Black Americans is because there is no homogenous homeland or place where Black Americans are from that we are orphans.
Last, even with pointing at the grifters Yvette and Tariq, that still does not explain why it was perfectly fine for many other Black ethnicities to make sure everyone knew they were not Black American, but is not fine for some Black Americans now to agree and state they are right they are not one of us.
Oh I agree Black Americans definitely should be proud of our ethnic and cultural differences. I'll never dispute that.
 

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I feel like an argument used by non-Black Americans is because there is no homogenous homeland or place where Black Americans are from that we are orphans.

Oh I agree Black Americans definitely should be proud of our ethnic and cultural differences. I'll never dispute that.
Well, that homeland is the US. When our people have been in a place for over 400 years, and before the advent of the country itself, then that place becomes our homeland. The simple truth is that unless you are a member of the San People, your ancestors migrated to some parts of the world where they now claim they are from. I believe 400 years is definitely enough time for our people to claim they are from here, while also recognizing our anscetors came from elsewhere (Parts of Africa).

Edit: Our ancestors built the US, it is in some cases more ours than any other group but the native Americans.
 

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Well, that homeland is the US. When our people have been in a place for over 400 years, and before the advent of the country itself, then that place becomes our homeland. The simple truth is that unless you are a member of the San People, your ancestors migrated to some parts of the world where they now claim they are from. I believe 400 years is definitely enough time for our people to claim they are from here, while also recognizing our anscetors came from elsewhere (Parts of Africa).

Edit: Our ancestors built the US, it is in some cases more ours than any other group but the native Americans.
I don't disagree with any of that. My father's people are from Maryland and the Carolina's. I already know. What I'm saying is that's the line used against us. Since we don't really run anything here. (though the same can be said for Africans in some instances and Black Caribbeans as well) I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just bringing to you the arguments. Made.
 

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That aside what would you say the tenets of thF cultural framework are?

I prefer to direct you towards books you can read for yourself. You can go deeper if you are curious about the subject with books by James Baldwin and so on.


 

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*full disclosure. Didn't click*

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Purity tests for Black people are counterproductive and illogical.

I understand the FBADOS movement as a play for reparations. Develop a way to qualify for that million dollar check. Distinguish ourselves.

I am descendant of slaves on both sides. And I have native and european ancestors on both sides.

Just like most FBADOS and most descendants of slaves in the New World.

There's no real logical difference between a Caribbean, South America, or North American descendant of New World slavery. All of us have the same origin and all of us have the same mix of DNA to greater or lesser degree.

Dividing will never be more powerful than uniting.
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