Fatal Flaw in the idea that humans have any vital role in the composition of the universe

[nineteeneightysix]

There is an objective reality...Millions of people did not imagine Seattle shytting on Peyton Manning in the Superbowl...

 

[tmonster]

The fact is we have no idea whether the world in which we live and how we perceive it is real or an illusion. It could be we are a brain in a septic tank or that we are are ephereal beings floating around in a vast universe with an affect which stimulates our consciousness. That's the crux of the discussion.

Let's just deal with the statement in red
I think it makes for a fun conversation
would you indulge a few questions from me?

here is the first
what is your definition of "real"?