"Fat Joe had his homies look out for 2Pac in prison" - Napoleon

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Aside from the celebrity photographer johnny Nunez who witness the suge shooting, Mohammed Stewart confessed to the jimmy Henchmen shooting and cooperated to working for jimmy as a drug dealer. That's more so to go against what Reggie said. I agree with you on Reggie is wrong regarding how Stretch died. We can agree and disagree with what happened to Pac. Just Napoleon didn't to my knowledge talked or Pac didn't tell him if he got beat up or not. I would bet money it was correction officers. Aside from that, the charges he was ultimately guilty of didn't warrant him to go to upstate prison. The law had it in for Pac.
Link article:
Cocaine Trafficker Cops To Shooting Suge Knight

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People got mad at Haitian Jack but any one with a felony ,their lawyer would have told their client to separate themselves from the case and plead lesser charge and not go to trial including someone else I think besides Jack.
The nikkas who Pac felt was informants ended up being just that. Pac’s lawyers was telling him that them nikkas patterns was that of govt informants. nikkas think Pac pulled that shyt outta thin air but when ur own legal advisor. Who is OFFICIAL as fukk I might add. Tells u some shyt like that. Of course u gonna listen.
 

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The nikkas who Pac felt was informants ended up being just that. Pac’s lawyers was telling him that them nikkas patterns was that of govt informants. nikkas think Pac pulled that shyt outta thin air but when ur own legal advisor. Who is OFFICIAL as fukk I might add. Tells u some shyt like that. Of course u gonna listen.
It was someone else also arrested arrested not just Jack that pleaded out. Anyone with a FELONY would not have gone to trial with Pac and they would have separate the cases it's common sense. My point is not about Jack at all.
The point I was trying to make is not to go to "trial" . You plead out and live for another day. I'm not mad at Pac I'm just seeing it from those with felonies
Also weren't there guns found In the hotel also? See my point? Any lawyer with a client with a felony would separate the case from pac and "NOT " go to trial and plead out.

Not defending Jack ,whether no one ever produced any paperwork and yes I know folks can low key cooperate without being on paperwork but that can be said about anyone Also like I said, Jack and Pac were not the only one arrested. Generally speaking, more folks should be angry at the system cause the smaller charge Pac eventually was guilty of did not warrant him to go to upstate prison.

One thing for sure, aside from the rape,

you believe the dude who said he was one of the shooters and claim King Tut had nothing to do with it. who is still in prison for something else "or"if you believe it was other camp it all leads more to Jimmy than Jack.

Pac had every right to be angry but that don't mean everyone he mad at were on some I want Pac shot or were involved. Dude mentioned street dudes on his music.

Also when Pac wrote the letter in jail and wrote names of folks including Andre Harrel .Andre is no saint in terms of contracts in music business but no way he was involved in Pac shooting or conspiracy . What would be in it for Andre?

Lil Shawn the rapper who Pac was supposed to rap with that night in the old Combat Jack interview said Andre Harrel wouldnt mind having Pac in the TV show NY Undercover Justand was happy to get chance to meet Pac .
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cause dude's were at the studio don't mean they know what was going to happen.heck if I was in the studio and the elevator opened and saw someone shot up I'd be surprised and look in shock myself.

Pac is not perfect but he was cool and sincere like many folks stated. His anger even his own cousin and Pac himself said he has a big mouth those are his and his own including his own cousin words and if you notice at times Pac would lash out and make peace cooler heads will prevail. I don't believe everyone knew Pac would get set up that night .
Unlike the movie , from folks think biggie was friends with Jimmy Henchmen and Jack.
Also Haitian Jack or jimmy don't rock with biggie like that. There's even rumors that biggie warn Pac and biggie was rob for that. True or not ,jimmy and Jack crews and biggie were not cool like that. Biggie from Bedstuy and his people's don't rock with that crew.


Rip Pac and Biggie at end of the day it was all nonsense pointless deaths to be honest.

On a side note,
Jimmy Iovine made money of Pac when Pac had solo deal. Jimmy made money of Death Row and later directly with Dre and later directly with Puffy. As Biggie and Pac buried . Jimmy unfortunately won.

Not directly to you but some youoyou have some "crazy Pac fans" seem to corner Pac's life to just the shooting and death row era and Pac's anger at this person and that person. If you noticed pac made peace with folks along the way. Who's to say Pac probably would have made peace with more folks outside the direct shooters of course.

Hence why even Gene Deal said Big D and Eric B even Reggie wright had Eric B on an interview that when Pac was lashing out at NY. Eric B and them told Pac to be specific at who you have issues with instead of generalizing cause that ain't cool.them last month folks got mad at Fat Joe rocking with Biggie when he did what he supposed to do at that time.then Napoleon had to do an interview to let from know he ride with Joe.
 
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Fam nikkas was playing Hit Em Up in NY at the height of the beef. I remember my whole JR high was Pac fans and I’m from Brooklyn.

I read about this in one of the rap magazines back then, probably The Source. I think it was an article about Biggie, and talked about the song’s popularity in NYC.

I distinctly remember them saying something like “it’s New York, Hit Em Up has just come out, and it seems like every other car that passes by is playing the song”.
 

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Fam nikkas was playing Hit Em Up in NY at the height of the beef. I remember my whole JR high was Pac fans and I’m from Brooklyn.
You NY nikkas been treating each other like shyt

This would never happen in my state:wow:
 

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Aside from the celebrity photographer johnny Nunez who witness the suge shooting, Mohammed Stewart confessed to the jimmy Henchmen shooting and cooperated to working for jimmy as a drug dealer. That's more so to go against what Reggie said. I agree with you on Reggie is wrong regarding how Stretch died. We can agree and disagree with what happened to Pac. Just Napoleon didn't to my knowledge talked or Pac didn't tell him if he got beat up or not. I would bet money it was correction officers. Aside from that, the charges he was ultimately guilty of didn't warrant him to go to upstate prison. The law had it in for Pac.
Link article:
Cocaine Trafficker Cops To Shooting Suge Knight

Side bar note,
People got mad at Haitian Jack but any one with a felony ,their lawyer would have told their client to separate themselves from the case and plead lesser charge and not go to trial including someone else I think besides Jack.
pac , his cousin or pacs lawyer never once proved Haitian jack was a snitch .... I’ve read countless books from gangsters from nyc n not 1 ov them said Jack was a known snitch ..pac was the one who throw that out there cause he was frustrated and angry lashing out at everyone just like he did with biggie About quad ... with no proof just rumours and assuming things .... truth be told pac caused a good few issues for people by assuming things and putting it out there with no proof Just his word ..... Muta wouldn’t tell the world that anyway would he if pac got paws put on him by “inmates “ would he even if he did..... I doubt that producer I posted would Just say that ... and he said inmates not c.os he said 3 inmates set-him up and beat him up on some open smiles lets smoke a blunt together type shyt ...... Reggie in my opinion is a solid cat ... I mentioned the things he shouldn’t speak on cause he don’t have much info ...,but he went with suge a few time’s to visit pac In prison and he’s very vague about pacs prison time wen vlad brought up the same thing your saying “the c.os fukking with him “ and he said it wasn’t just that ... there was a few crews in there he didn’t care for was his words and kept it moving ..... I asked Reggie personally if pac got beat up in prison By inmates ... every question prior to that he answered everytime .... soon as I asked him about that he said he didn’t wana speak on it out ov respect for pac ..... now if I was wrong he would have said straight away he’ll no ... that is all I needed to know there is some truth to what that producer said .... there’s a big reason pac didn’t wana go back to prison n I felt that’s 1 ov them .... until crews started lookin out for himm...
 
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pac , his cousin or pacs lawyer never once proved Haitian jack was a snitch .... I’ve read countless books from gangsters from nyc n not 1 ov them said Jack was a known snitch ..pac was the one who throw that out there cause he was frustrated and angry lashing out at everyone just like he did with biggie About quad ... with no proof just rumours and assuming things .... truth be told pac caused a good few issues for people by assuming things and putting it out there with no proof Just his word ..... Muta wouldn’t tell the world that anyway would he if pac got paws put on him by “inmates “ would he even if he did..... I doubt that producer I posted would Just say that ... and he said inmates not c.os he said 3 inmates set-him up and beat him up on some open smiles lets smoke a blunt together type shyt ...... Reggie in my opinion is a solid cat ... I mentioned the things he shouldn’t speak on cause he don’t have much info ...,but he went with suge a few time’s to visit pac In prison and he’s very vague about pacs prison time wen vlad brought up the same thing your saying “the c.os fukking with him “ and he said it wasn’t just that ... there was a few crews in there he didn’t care for was his words and kept it moving ..... I asked Reggie personally if pac got beat up in prison By inmates ... every question prior to that he answered everytime .... soon as I asked him about that he said he didn’t wana speak on it out ov respect for pac ..... now if I was wrong he would have said straight away he’ll no ... that is all I needed to know there is some truth to what that producer said .... there’s a big reason pac didn’t wana go back to prison n I felt that’s 1 ov them .... until crews started lookin out for himm...
yeh folks not being honest that what pac did naming non-rappers was wrong . haitian jack no paperwork and folks would have been expose him.

so i guess its either pac didnt want to express that prison part but im surprised no one in jail came out to speak on things then again it is what it is.

one thing for sure. when pac left the room when dudes had allegedly their way with that chick. i wonder if pac had intervened and told the guys to fall back and get her a cab none of that would have happened.

cause the court records it made it seem like he didnt want to get involve left the situation. whether she act like she was down for group sex or she was afraid or whatever.
my biggest question is had pac had the "bag" would she had dropped the charges cause pac didnt have money like that back in the days to do some legal maneuvering outside the court. she really was piss to go with the trial.
 
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yeh folks not being honest that what pac did naming non-rappers was wrong . haitian jack no paperwork and folks would have been expose him.

so i guess its either pac didnt want to express that prison part but im surprised no one in jail came out to speak on things then again it is what it is.

one thing for sure. when pac left the room when dudes had allegedly their way with that chick. i wonder if pac had intervened and told the guys to fall back and get her a cab none of that would have happened.

cause the court records it made it seem like he didnt want to get involve left the situation. whether she act like she was down for group sex or she was afraid or whatever.
my biggest question is had pac had the "bag" would she had dropped the charges cause pac didnt have money like that back in the days to do some legal maneuvering outside the court. she really was piss to go with the trial.
not sure ... there is a few situations where people were present and no one has come forward to tell the true storys...e.g...the crips that we’re with pac with the Hughes brothers..situation, pacs time in prison , the crips that ran up on pac in a Gas station , countless others etc ... maybe due to people who were there are dead , in prison or washed up since It’s been almost quarter a century ago ....... dno about the rape situation... jack said nobody raped her ...pac said he left the room ... Dno what to believe ..... maybe she made it a bigger thing then what it was ... the only person who can tell the real story is Charles fuller aka man-man or Haitian jacks nikka Rick the hitman cat if he’s still alive that is .....
 
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Sometimes I forget just how long Joe been in the game. Has stories with everyone and they’re all co-signed by other people unlike these other ducktale storytellers :mjlol:

Busta another one. Busta seem like he has legit met everyone, much like Joe.
Busta wrote Ronnie verse on Do me Baby

"Backstage......underage adolescente "


That was Busta...atleast that's what O read.
 

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In madd interviews of Fat Joe's in the last 10 years or so you can hear him subtly throwing jabs at Nas...nothing OD disrespectful but jabs. He never mentions his name, which is telling in itself since he always used to and is admittedly probably the biggest Nas fan on earth, but something Nas did rubbed him the wrong way.

Everybody from the hood with money has killers and prison dudes and whatever you need on their team ready to go all out for them, especially someone as beloved and admired as Nas from Queensbridge...so Fat Joe acting like him offering his allegiance and support to Nas during the Jay-z beef actually mattered any is just stupid and fantasy shyt, lol. The truth is he probably asked for a feature or tour spot or something and Nas left him hangin

True plus fat Joe already had beef with jayz before Nas even had beef with jayz
 

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Common went fukking bonkers on this
I'm a fan of DJ Honda's tapes. My cousin came over once and said "you want this bullshyt?" and threw the "Hii" cassette at me. I think that was the one after this joint.

I played it and see why HE didn't like it. I loved it so much, I had to go cop the CD.
 
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