Fasted Cardio, stop it brehs and brehettes

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Well, I guess the article I posted isn't really from a scientific journal but at least they cited some type of source. I tried google'ing fasted cardio and everything that came up was basically he said, she said...no one cited hard evidence to back up what they were talking about. I could probably look up articles through my university, but I don't really feel like it right now lol. I hear conflicting stuff about fitness everywhere, and pretty much just pick and choose what works for me. In this case, fasted cardio works for me.

Smart Girl...

At the end of the day, anything can be peer reviewed. At least that's the way I see it.

Low Fat High Carb diets were peer reviewed at one point, and then they were bad...

Everyone was co-signing several hours of Low to Mid intensity cardio a day and now everyone's like fall back, that's too many hours....

Atkins was hot, then it was not...

Everyone swore by the zone, and had the science to back it up, but that shyt was too big of a hassle for most people....

Then people started frowning on Bodybuilding type exercises...

Now, whole grains, whom the FDA and the free lunch folks told me was good for my body, is supposedly bad for you because of some shyt called gluten.....



You already got it figured out boo, just find out what works for you....











































Aint you like already fine anyway?

 

[awkwardblackgirl]

Smart Girl...

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Aint you like already fine anyway?

 

[The ADD]

I agree that the notion that you are burning fat to a higher degree is likely overstated if true at all.

That said the idea that doing cardio on an empty stomach automatically starts tearing away at muscle to such a high degree seems sketchy as well. The article you linked is from 2005, 8 years ago breh

Using this logic simply eating something before spares muscle but none of that food is digested and the nutrients in your system that quickly to counter balance these alleged losses. Like @MMSex mentioned it also doesn't account for other sources of energy in your system. Those nutrients you took in for dinner the night before didn't just disappear overnight.

From what I have seen the current thinking is that steady state cardio is more apt to burn muscle in general (long distance runner physique vs. sprinter physique) hence people suggesting HIIT as the better route.

Remember muscle is being broken down regardless that's part of the goal, nothing you eat is going to prevent that. How much you allow to be broken down and how you fuel to replenish in the bigger factor IMO.

From a personal perspective from March of last year until roughly September I burned through a ton muscle doing a lot of steady state (3-5 miles runs 4-5 times a week and bootcamps). In addition to that my nutrition wasn't in the realm of considering macros.

Fast forward to now and between nutrition, lifting and and keeping cardio along the lines HIIT I'm not losing muscle in a noticeable manner.

 

[MMS]

I agree that the notion that you are burning fat to a higher degree is likely overstated if true at all.

That said the idea that doing cardio on an empty stomach automatically starts tearing away at muscle to such a high degree seems sketchy as well. The article you linked is from 2005, 8 years ago breh

Using this logic simply eating something before spares muscle but none of that food is digested and the nutrients in your system that quickly to counter balance these alleged losses. Like @MMSex mentioned it also doesn't account for other sources of energy in your system. Those nutrients you took in for dinner the night before didn't just disappear overnight.

From what I have seen the current thinking is that steady state cardio is more apt to burn muscle in general (long distance runner physique vs. sprinter physique) hence people suggesting HIIT as the better route.

Remember muscle is being broken down regardless that's part of the goal, nothing you eat is going to prevent that. How much you allow to be broken down and how you fuel to replenish in the bigger factor IMO.

body heat and the duration of training often are the major reasons for muscle loss

thats why cold showers/ice baths are advocated.

but more on topic, fat isnt easily broken down. Now you might lose alot of water...but fat losses whether on an empty stomach or a full gut thats debateable regardless.

but the thermodynamics say if you burning more cals than you need, its gonna even up somewhere

i think everyone is pretty straight doing it either way. Imo whatever way is mentally more feasible is the best idea.

 

[SouthernBelle]

I've always been told (many different books, articles, and etc.), that your body burns glycogen, then fat, and then muscle. If you are working out fasted, depending on the time of day, I very seriously doubt that you have gone through all of your muscle and liver glycogen stores, blood stream stores, and fat stores. You can also prevent muscle loss by taking 10 grams of BCAA 5 to 15 minutes before a fasted workout.

Even when you are on a no or low carb diet, it takes days before your body is completely running off of fat and it takes even longer for your body to start eating its muscle.

Here is a University of Michigan article (which includes their sources) to support what I've always been told and what I will continue to follow (the article isn't exactly about the topic, but it does explain the order in which your body burns certain types of fuel):

Welcome to MedFitness

 

[King Crimson]

@_@

So... Is me biking 6 miles a morning before breakfast bad, or no?

 

[Rusty Kuntz]

I never work out without eating something beforehand, even if it's just a banana or something like that. I feel like my workouts aren't nearly as good on an empty stomach.

 

[You Win Perfect]

i use to run all the time on an empty stomach. on top of that I would play full court ball all day long durin the summer. I was a little chubby, not too bad but I had noticeable fat. I got skinny as fukk in like 2 months. This was before I even got into weight lifting or anything. I just liked running.

 

[Spliff]

It's one of the various strategies to offset the increasing difficulties of fat mobilization and transportation as an individual drops in BF%.

Unless you're lean trying to get very lean, it doesn't matter.

 

[YouMadd?]

For lean people, trying to get those abs to POP... Fasting cardio is

I go for 45 mins to an hour walking on the treadmill at 13 incline and 3.2 mph...

 

[The Coochie Assassin]

Fasted cardio or weight lifting will not burn muscle lol...but it isn't burning fat more efficiently either....do what u like and just hit ur macros that day....i will say taking supps like Purple Wraath on an empty stomach be having me feelin it

 

[Melt_Man]

I've always been told (many different books, articles, and etc.), that your body burns glycogen, then fat, and then muscle. If you are working out fasted, depending on the time of day, I very seriously doubt that you have gone through all of your muscle and liver glycogen stores, blood stream stores, and fat stores. You can also prevent muscle loss by taking 10 grams of BCAA 5 to 15 minutes before a fasted workout.

Even when you are on a no or low carb diet, it takes days before your body is completely running off of fat and it takes even longer for your body to start eating its muscle.

Here is a University of Michigan article (which includes their sources) to support what I've always been told and what I will continue to follow (the article isn't exactly about the topic, but it does explain the order in which your body burns certain types of fuel):

Welcome to MedFitness

I'm reading through the thread like but in Bio 101 I was told our glycogen was used to fuel aerobic exercise.