Farrakhan vs Malcolm X.. Who's the Judas?
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Piff Perkins
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The fact that people still deny the illegitimate children is hilarious. Really shows that at its heart, the NOI is really a cult. When you base your entire premise on a MAN, including defending his every move and straight up issuing propaganda to deny basic facts/reality...you're in a cult.
Now Farrakhan is dabbling in scientology beliefs lol. You don't see a pattern here?
Malcolm X left a cult, exposed it, and was killed. Obviously the government played a major part in his murder but we know they assisted black men with ties to the Nation. That should tell you everything you need to know.
Now Farrakhan is dabbling in scientology beliefs lol. You don't see a pattern here?
Malcolm X left a cult, exposed it, and was killed. Obviously the government played a major part in his murder but we know they assisted black men with ties to the Nation. That should tell you everything you need to know.
Bro I'm not even gonna go back and forth with you because I don't think you're impartial.
My only ask is that you view Elijah with the same critical eye you are viewing Malcolm.
Peace
edit: and what's really worse? Going to the white media or condoning the killing of your brother? Because despite what you think the NOI was definitely involved in Malcolm's murder.
Malcolms friends and family and even his daughter recently stated it was 100 the gov and gov agents that killed Bro Malcolm.
The hate for the noi and powerful black men is so strong among scary negros that they can't fatham the Gov did it. They are afraid to Actually say the Gov set up and executed Bro Malcolm.
In his final meetings with his team Malcolm stated that he didn't even no longer believe the NOI firebombed his home and he said it would the the Gov and not the noi who would do it.
Ntm there was an Order from all noi leadership to not harm Bro Malcolm
Even without all those Facts....It would make ZERO sense for the noi to have done it, becAuse theu gained nothing. Allllllllllllll this time later they are getting all the disses and bad press from Malcolms death, more than even the Gov. They gained nothing. Ntm at the time of Death Bro Malcolm wasnt the noi Minister Bro Malcolm every knows could fill up streets w people or fill up a college campus, he was barely filling up a room at the time- while Elijah Muhammad was filling major arenas. People in this Day n age fell in love with Malcolm due to A CAC lying Hollywood movie and CIA Agent Written Auto Bio of Malcolm.. Plus the way the mainstream society has Neutralized and made his image less extreme- so we take that and create revisionist history outta Malcolm and wear his face on Tshirts , WHILE disrespecting everything he was about.
And No, Muhammad wasnt perfect but nothing is worse than being a sell out, ungrateful , emotional, and turncoat to the white media. But we still Bro Malcolm for all his good work as a National Speaker.
He never went to mecca specifically in 1959, he went to Saudi Arabia. He felt that brotherhood with white muslims when he actually went to perform the hajj at mecca in 1964 and that's why he changed his views, not just seeing them like he didn't know they existed or something.
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Mercenary
The whiteman is your god.
The whiteman has appropriated both MLK's and Malcolm's messages. If you actually understood what Minister Malcolm X taught, you would be able to see this. But you, like most Malcolmites, are just a personality worshipper, and view him, like you said, as an icon, a symbol who's substance is too difficult for you to grasp.
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Mercenary
El Hajj Malik El Shabazz was a hypocrite, and your hypocrisy in this thread is not surprising. The Holy Qur'an says to argue in the best of manners, so disagreements should not be a problem. However, to knock someone for defending Elijah Muhammad, and trying to make said defense somehow seem irrational, while you do the same for El Hajj Malik El Shabazz is hypocrisy. But that is typical of Malcolmites.
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Mercenary
Just for now, let's look at this "sexism/gender" part of this post.
The headquarters for the Nation of Islam under Louis Farrakhan is named Mosque Maryam, after the mother of Jesus, and the 19th chapter of the Holy Qur'an. Out of all of the male scriptural figures, a woman's name was chosen. One of Farrakhan's long running respected and well known national representatives is a woman. If you were to ever watch an NOI Sunday webcast, you would almost always see sisters, of all ages, addressing and teaching the veiwing public from the rostrum.
"What the Muslims Believe" Point Number 11:
"WE BELIEVE our women should be respected and protected as the women of other nationalities are respected and protected"
That statement has appeared on the back page of every Nation of Islam newspaper, every issue, since 1962.
None of this is some sort of hidden or secret teaching or reality. It's right there in plain sight for the public to see. Like I always say in these threads, when it comes to sh-tting on the Nation of Islam, the facts don't matter. You're perception of the NOI is rooted in ignorance of what the organization is actually about.
If you ever were to actually listened to or read Elijah Muhammad, you would know one of his oft repeated phrases is; "Take it, (what he's saying) or let it alone." He also taught and stated that, There is no compulsion in religion, no compulsion in Islam. No one is ever forced to do anything or to remain in the temple or mosque. This notion of cult is also rooted in ignorance.
You have a problem with "basing your entire premise on a MAN," but go back to post #52 and acknowledge the works of this MAN before you imply his followers are or were foolish blind worshippers who's loyalty was without warrant. The entire premise of your life is based on the whiteman, so when a Black man strives for freedom justice and equality, your white-washed mind can't conceive that his intentions are righteous and pure.
When Malcolm left the NOI he still stated that it was the best organization for Black people in America. That's not much of an exposal in terms of what you're trying to portray about the NOI.
Message to the Blackman in America has 355 pages
Our Saviour has Arrived had 226 pages
The Fall of America has 265 pages
How to Eat to Live Book 1 has 132 pages
How to Eat to Live Book 2 has 199 pages
But some retard in the Root section of The Coli thinks he can break down "everything you need to know" about the Nation of Islam in one post filled with untruths is a real display of stupidity.
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Mercenary
Hajj is 1 of the 5 pillars of Sunni Islam. It is a holy event and ritual. Nobody making their pilgrimage is gonna steal your gold watch, touch a woman inappropriately, nobody is gonna call you n-gg-r. The fact that some pale or white Muslims are on their best behavior during Hajj doesn't mean they feel a true and sincere brotherhood with any Black man.
El Hajj Malik El Shabazz letter from Mecca:
If he really believed this about Sunni Islam, he was a damn fool
So 11 days of eating some fish and drinking water with a handful of white folks convinced him that the whiteman globally can practice freedom justice and equality with the original people in any society. Those 11 days cancelled out 400 plus years in his mind. And here he's implying that he never felt true brotherhood amongst the FOI. So when he would be walking through the streets of NY, or elsewhere, and he had 6 FOI flanking him in formation, he did feel brotherhood? He never felt true brotherhood in those 500-600 plus FOI Classes he participated in? N-gga please
If the "spiritual path of truth" is Sunni Islam, El Hajj Malik El Shabazz was inhaling too much camel sh-t if he thought college educated crackas would turn to it in mass.
BaltimoreTwilightMarauder
Superstar
Much like the Jesus and Judas story, who's the one that's still alive?... There's your Judas.
Young/Nacho\Drawz
...come on let's picture the possibility...
Wasn't Wallace D. Fard a whiteman? And I hope you don't think that Louis' "good hair" comes from a damn S Curl. NO, he has your beloved whiteman's blood proudly flowing all throughout his veins got dammit!