Face Off: Chavez Jr./Martinez

[patscorpio]

Andy Lee got blatantly cheated against Jr...

If its not bad enough Jr came in 20 pounds over the limit the mothafukka also demanded a ring the size of a Texas jail cell...On top of all that Jr was allowed to fight without giving a piss test and refused to have his gloves checked...

In other words, Lee never had a chance and it had nothing to do with Chavez skills...Despite the serious handicaps in place to make Jr look good Lee was still whoopin Jr's ass with ease for the majority of that fight...Lee thoroughly outboxed that nikka before he lost his legs...

on top of that andy lee is not the most durable cat so a ko win over him isn't shyt really..shyt brian vera, a lesser skilled fighter, busted him up and stopped him too..im just curious has there been any case where a fighter repeatedly comes into fights 3 weight divisions above his contracted weight after making weight?..a middle coming into the fights a cruiser has me at times..well the human body can only take so much of whatever illegal cutting shyt he's doing..he'll be eaten alive at 168 if this is his last fight at middle and he gets by martinez

 

[1986]

This gon be a good ass scrap! I got Martinez!

 

[TheNig]

Andy Lee got blatantly cheated against Jr...

If its not bad enough Jr came in 20 pounds over the limit the mothafukka also demanded a ring the size of a Texas jail cell...On top of all that Jr was allowed to fight without giving a piss test and refused to have his gloves checked...

In other words, Lee never had a chance and it had nothing to do with Chavez skills...Despite the serious handicaps in place to make Jr look good Lee was still whoopin Jr's ass with ease for the majority of that fight...Lee thoroughly outboxed that nikka before he lost his legs...

i tink i had Lee up 4-2 before he got leaned back.

 

[Malta]

Sergio had so much disgust and contempt in how he was looking at Chavez

 

[Jmare007]

I like both boxers, but I really feel Chavez Jr is gonna KO Martinez. Martinez usually gasses a lil bit around the 7-8th round when he's really pressured hard. Jr is really going to pressure him and Martinez can't afford to gas or tap his foot on the brakes in this fight. The Euro scrubs that Martinez been fighting lately didn't pressure him like that.

That's my biggest fear too. Like I said in the boxing thread, Sergio tends to slow down after the 4th and come back strong in the 8th-9th round. In the last couple of years he has shown that he fights best in the last 3 rounds but I don't know if he will be able to hang around that long with Junior hitting those big body shots and walking through every punch Sergio throws. Specially if Chavez steps into the ring as a god damn cruiserweight.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

I just don't see any other outcome aside from sergio completely exposing the shyt out of this kid...I see it ending in tko. I would be SHOCKED to see chavez win this. yall might wanna drop 20 bucks on a draw just for the fukk of it though. cause if sergio dominates but doesn't finish the job you know there's a great chance of some fukkery goin down.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

That's my biggest fear too. Like I said in the boxing thread, Sergio tends to slow down after the 4th and come back strong in the 8th-9th round. In the last couple of years he has shown that he fights best in the last 3 rounds but I don't know if he will be able to hang around that long with Junior hitting those big body shots and walking through every punch Sergio throws. Specially if Chavez steps into the ring as a god damn cruiserweight.

chavez' footwork is still so fukkin terrible. I just see him walking right into martinez counter punches all night. the speed is gonna be the difference here. chavez walking through all these punches because he's fighting all these slow ass C level fighters. he can see everything coming. when he's gettin hit with punches he doesn't see, it's gonna effect him in a different way. I see a bute type exposal going down. maybe i'm just crazy. but nothing about chavez impresses me. yea he improved but he still looked average as hell vs lee. there was so many holes in his defense and andy lee just wasn't good enough to take advantage. sergio is gonna feast on this dude.

 

[charknicks]

Chavez Jr. said he has already exceeded expectations. In my mind, he has already lost this fight. He has given himself an out if he loses.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

That's my biggest fear too. Like I said in the boxing thread, Sergio tends to slow down after the 4th and come back strong in the 8th-9th round. In the last couple of years he has shown that he fights best in the last 3 rounds but I don't know if he will be able to hang around that long with Junior hitting those big body shots and walking through every punch Sergio throws. Specially if Chavez steps into the ring as a god damn cruiserweight.

For real breh
Those body shots coming from Chavez jr are brutal. One thing I notice about Martinez is that he's vulnerable to the jab when opponents step to him deep with it. Martinez has good reflexes but I notice he kind of anticipates jabs falling short cuz he takes a slight step back. Most dudes throw range finding jabs at him because their wary of his counters if they step in too much. His last couple of opponents were able to jab their way in with that tactic but didn't do anything once on the inside nor were they durable enough to take some of the counters he fired back.

 

[TheNig]

Chavez Jr. said he has already exceeded expectations. In my mind, he has already lost this fight. He has given himself an out if he loses.

i dont think he believes that bruh.

 

[Rev]

Sergio had so much disgust and contempt in how he was looking at Chavez

right? He was talking to him with such a calm tone like showing how weak & pathetic this dude is. It's like he feels Chavez doesn't belong in the same anything as him...and I agree.

chavez' footwork is still so fukkin terrible. I just see him walking right into martinez counter punches all night. the speed is gonna be the difference here. chavez walking through all these punches because he's fighting all these slow ass C level fighters. he can see everything coming. when he's gettin hit with punches he doesn't see, it's gonna effect him in a different way. I see a bute type exposal going down. maybe i'm just crazy. but nothing about chavez impresses me. yea he improved but he still looked average as hell vs lee. there was so many holes in his defense and andy lee just wasn't good enough to take advantage. sergio is gonna feast on this dude.

You ain't crazy bruh. I feel 100% the same.

 

[Reggie]

I got Martinez winning this fight as long as he box and don't try to make it a war. Cuz Chavez might be limited but he has definitely improved over the past couple of years. And he's so much bigger than Martinez that i can see him wearing him down of size alone if Sergio don't stay on his toes and just box. But pride may take over and he might try to go for the knockout and it may come back to bite him in the ass.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

I got Martinez winning this fight as long as he box and don't try to make it a war. Cuz Chavez might be limited but he has definitely improved over the past couple of years. And he's so much bigger than Martinez that i can see him wearing him down of size alone if Sergio don't stay on his toes and just box. But pride may take over and he might try to go for the knockout and it may come back to bite him in the ass.

shyt I think even brawling sergio could beat the shyt out of chavez. remember how he bludgeoned pavlik. pavlik was a huge middleweight and a much bigger puncher than chavez. and also a better boxer. I think sergio gonna be mixin it up between boxing and brawling. like in the 10th round vs pavlik. if he fights like this chavez jr is gonna be massacred.






got damn at pavlik's face

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

Man I hope Sergio murders this fakkit


Then we get Sergio vs mayweather next year

 

[ahomeplateslugger]

gonna be a good and interesting fight. everything just points to sergio winning this for me....he's not a fighter that you can just bully around the ring like most of chavez previous opponents.