There was also Egyptian artifacts found in the Americas as well, we were here and I always had a theory that this was another base for us. Plus all the pyramids here had to have some form of an African connection
Explain to Blackking about Black people being IndigOnus to the Amerikkas please...
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Was about to recommend this book.
Compelling evidence
I would like to hear a rebuttal
Also has anyone seen one just one slave ship? Does America have any archeological evidence of these ships preserved somewhere?
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Compelling evidence
I would like to hear a rebuttal
Also has anyone seen one just one slave ship? Does America have any archeological evidence of these ships preserved somewhere?
Ive never seen any slave ships here in the U.S BUT I have seen slave ports in the Dominican republic & panama and even them they were regular shipping ports that had area fitted for slaves. One port i remember had it setup so the slave could be transported directly from the hull of the ship to under neither the port for holding, while "regular" merchandise was taken off from the top of the ship . The hold areas were just large rooms with areas for wrist/ankle chaining.
Blessup
Souljah inna Jah Army
Its true. BBC did a documentary on it:
"Indians" came AFTER black people were already living in the americas. Cave drawing depict indians killing black people upon their arrival. "Native Indians" are no different than white people. Many of them owned black slaves as well.
Black people have NO allies.
"Indians" came AFTER black people were already living in the americas. Cave drawing depict indians killing black people upon their arrival. "Native Indians" are no different than white people. Many of them owned black slaves as well.
Black people have NO allies.
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Blessup
Souljah inna Jah Army
Good video:
I've been saying this for years yet I always get shut down cause you know calling out other so-called minorities is prohibited since "we're all stuck at the bottom together, we all suffer from the same problems, we should always help each other out, other people of color are not your enemy BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH"
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The currents on the western seaboard of Africa takes you to America without even sailing. They been in the Americas for centuries before any European. We also traded as well and build civilizations without conquering unlike the Europeans.
Blessup
Souljah inna Jah Army
Since none of you can provide proof you are African. I will provide proof of negros existing in the Americas.
"Ostium Flumines Paraybae [Brazil]"
by John Ogilby, 1671
A picturesque scene of merchants trading goods with native Indians. Ogilby has included two galleons in the distance of this striking view of a fort on the coast of Brazil. This view appeared in John Ogilby’s seminal atlas America: Being the Latest, and Most Accurate Description of the New World, published in London in 1671. Ogilby’s work is an English translation of Arnoldus Montanus’ Die Nieuwe en onbekende Weereld…, published in Amerstdam, although greatly expanded in some instances and with new maps and views. A nice dark impression.
In the late 1630s, Holland attempted to reassert its claim over Brazil by establishing a series of forts along the coastline. One of the best-documented colonies was the expedition led by Prince Maurits of Nassau, who attempted to assemble an intellectual court in the New World. He brought with him a group of highly accomplished artists, mapmakers, and scientists to record the mysteries of Brazil. They included the celebrated painter Frans Post, and the astronomer George Markgraf, who produced the first serious study of the southern sky. Post painted a wealth of images of the Brazilian landscape and the surrounding vegetation and wildlife. His works are some of the earliest European paintings of Brazil and were eagerly reproduced in print by Dutch engravers.
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I can keep going and going. Negroid People already existed in the Americas. The point is you guys have no clue what happened yet your lapping this Atlantic Slave shyt up like spit as if you have PROOF. Lets not forget the people who TOLD you that and WHO they where and what they were trying to ACHIEVE.
In 1667, the Virginia General Assembly declared “enslavement of Indians for life to be legal.” This act was repealed, then revived in 1691, but regardless, it was ignored. In 1705 Indian slavery in Virginia became illegal but it was not until 1777 that it was decided by the legislature that no Indian brought into Virginia since the Act of 1705, nor their descendants, could continue to be held as slaves. Slave owners didn't rush right home and free their slaves that they had inherited or purchased. The descendants of the slaves had to find a way to file a lawsuit, and a surprising number did.
South Carolina also declared Indian slavery to be illegal, but North Carolina did not, prompting some planters to move to North Carolina from Virginia.
In 1777 in Virginia when it was determined that it had been illegal to enslave Indians taken up during the Indian Wars, it opened the doors of possibility, at least a crack. Legally, it did not matter how much Indian or African ancestry one had, only whether the person descended from an Indian woman, since the legal status or condition of the child was determined by the “condition of the mother.” This new law encouraged lawsuits from descendants of female Indian slaves, and many sued for their freedom. Many won. The lawsuits often included many depositions that spanned nearly 100 years of history, describing where the slave was captured, how old they were when they were brought to Virginia and the history of their enslavement and subsequent sales. The families had to be reconstructed as well, and depositions were necessary for that too. These suits are gold mines for both genealogists and historians.
Some masters, unwilling to depart with their slaves, moved to other counties or states where lawsuits would have to be refiled. The original Indian captive slaves were dead and it was their grandchildren who most often sued for relief. However, the depositions taken tell us a great deal not just about Indian slavery, but the culture of slavery itself. It details how often slaves were sold, how many living children they had, how often they moved, and how the families were dispersed. We discover that many descendants knew where their family members were, even though they surely didn’t get to see them very often, if at all.
Things were different in Maryland. However, there was apparently some doubt, based on this Anne Arundel County, Maryland record from the Court Proceedings, 11 January 1708/9 – p.552: Capt. William Harbert presents an Indian youth the Son of an Indian Captive Woman taken at the Susquehannock Fort and Desires to have the Courts Opinion whether he be a servant During live as his Mother was or not. It is the opinion of ye Court that he is a slave During life.
These kinds of court decisions set precedents that would require more than another 150 years to overturn. By the time that slavery ended during the Civil War, not only were the Indians originally enslaved long dead, their 7th generation descendants were being born, allowing 25 years per generation. Some of the original Indian captive’s great-great-grandchildren may have been alive, as elderly people, to witness the emancipation of their great-grandchildren – if – they had been one of the lucky people, able to keep track of their family.
"Peru" by John Ogilby, 1671
Striking example of the map of Peru from John Ogilby's Complete History of America. The map extends from Los Pastos in the west to Talvera and Yuntas and Atacama in the east and provides a marvelous, if primitive look at he Cordilleras, towns and rivers along the coastline. Embellished with two large cartouches, sea monster and sailing ships, plus a compass rose. One of the most decorative early maps of Peru, then the richest part of the Spanish Empire in the New World.
"Atlas Novus Sive Tabulae Geographicae Totus Orbis Faciem, Partes, Imperia, Regna Et Provincias Exhibentes, "
by Matthaus Seutter, 1740
"The center of this title shows Europe, Asia, Africa and America in a hemispherical globe surrounded by allegorical personifications depicting natives and typical animals living on the various continents. Europe is at the upper left, Asia is shown at the bottom left, native Africans at the bottom right, and the upper right is a map being held by Native Americans showing the American Hemisphere and California as an island. Above all are putti blowing wind in four directions, Pegasus on a mountain top. Mercurius and Neptune with their symbols, ocean-going vessels and a playful symbolic depiction of the four elements. At the bottom symbols of science and power flanking the title cartouche."
This was a worthwhile thread derail, I apologize to the OP.
Guyane (Guyana) - Bonis Indians
engraving from 1879
Allegory of America by Stichvorlage von Giovanni Volpato (1733-1803)
A Different Narrative
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A Different Narrative
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Here's my own video I produced....Martin Luther King Jr. even stated we are indigenous to America. My Youtube Channel is @ A Different Narrative
“One hundred years later, the Negro is still languishing in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land."
- From Martin Luther King Jr.'s I Have A Dream speech
"Before the Pilgrim fathers landed at Plymouth we were here; before Thomas Jefferson etched across the pages of history the majestic words of the Declaration of Independence we were here; before the words of the Star-Spangled Banner were written we were here. For more than two centuries our forbears labored here without wages. They made cotton king; they built the homes of their masters; in the midst of the most oppressive conditions they continued to grow and develop."
- Martin Luther King Jr's: The Other America - Letter From A Birmingham Jail
But unfortunately you have a lot self hating negroes who hate their roots in America and would rather be Egyptians. The Americas and its civilizations is older than any African civilization...Some people are literally stuck on stupid...the Egyptians descended from America not the reverse. The Slave Trade happened in reverse...also add the back to Africa movement encouraged by white supremacists.
All the ancient civilizations and artifacts with negro people are all found outside of Africa...there's literally no evidence of Africans leaving to develop other lands and not their own. It's not Out of Africa it is Into Africa in some cases like the Egyptians.
“One hundred years later, the Negro is still languishing in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land."
- From Martin Luther King Jr.'s I Have A Dream speech
"Before the Pilgrim fathers landed at Plymouth we were here; before Thomas Jefferson etched across the pages of history the majestic words of the Declaration of Independence we were here; before the words of the Star-Spangled Banner were written we were here. For more than two centuries our forbears labored here without wages. They made cotton king; they built the homes of their masters; in the midst of the most oppressive conditions they continued to grow and develop."
- Martin Luther King Jr's: The Other America - Letter From A Birmingham Jail
But unfortunately you have a lot self hating negroes who hate their roots in America and would rather be Egyptians. The Americas and its civilizations is older than any African civilization...Some people are literally stuck on stupid...the Egyptians descended from America not the reverse. The Slave Trade happened in reverse...also add the back to Africa movement encouraged by white supremacists.
All the ancient civilizations and artifacts with negro people are all found outside of Africa...there's literally no evidence of Africans leaving to develop other lands and not their own. It's not Out of Africa it is Into Africa in some cases like the Egyptians.
Just watched.... there will be a time again where we live without white people. Only seems natural. The way they are dying off tells you nature is fixing a mistake.
Secure Da Bag
Veteran
Black before Columbus came
I would love to see the up to date information on this work. Since it was written, I haven't heard alot of work being done in the field to build upon the theory and the crazy thing about it is that white archeologists and scholars, not Van Sertima himself are the people that came up with the theory of Africans being indigenous to the Americas in the first place. And yet Van Sertima is the one who get's all of the criticism.
This cat right here was not only an Archeologist who participated in the digging and excavating of the Olmec heads, but he was also a proponent of the Olmecs having an African Origin, many years before Van Sertima came on scene. I have this book below
