Ex-business manager indicted in $7M defrauding Cavs' Richard Jefferson

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Those accounts are insured for a grand total of $250,000 each.

So if the economy goes under (which JUST happened less than 10 years ago) and his bank closes...you know what he gets for having 25 million in the bank.....?

$500,000.

Never EVER have all your money in one place.
 

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With today's technology and resources available to RJ calibre of persons, there is absolutely NO reason that a person should get swindled today. Do NOT invest money in the Capital Markets unless you have a solid understanding of how they work. Bills can be put onto auto-pay. Investment opportunities will always arise and should NOT be made until your career begins to dwindle. These athletes retire at a young enough age where they can make investments and be mature enough to have a working knowledge of the risks involved in these investments.

Having accountants watching accountants and lawyers watching lawyers is silly if you do not understand the complexities involved or the basic need to employ one of those people past the fact that people are telling you that you need them. These athletes can place their earnings into a bank (several accounts), hire a basic accountant to file their taxable income at a reputable accounting and auditing firm and sit on their earnings in a bank account or money market account at Vanguard.

No need to be a real estate speculator, investment whiz-kid or any of that stuff or.... A part time casino owner in Alabama or Missississipi of all places...
I mean no BS but any advisor who would come to me with that idea as an investment would get backhanded.
 

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Those accounts are insured for a grand total of $250,000 each.

So if the economy goes under (which JUST happened less than 10 years ago) and his bank closes...you know what he gets for having 25 million in the bank.....?

$500,000.

Never EVER have all your money in one place.
r u 100% sure about this?
 

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r u 100% sure about this?
FDIC
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation - Wikipedia
Ownership categories
Each ownership category of a depositor's money is insured separately up to the insurance limit, and separately at each bank. Thus a depositor with $250,000 in each of three ownership categories at each of two banks would have six different insurance limits of $250,000, for total insurance coverage of 6 × $250,000 = $1,500,000.[7] The distinct ownership categories are[7]

  • Single accounts (accounts not falling into any other category)
  • Certain retirement accounts (including Individual Retirement Accounts (IRAs))
  • Joint accounts (accounts with more than one owner with equal rights to withdraw)
  • Revocable trust accounts (containing the words "Payable on death", "In trust for", etc.)
  • Irrevocable trust accounts
  • Employee Benefit Plan accounts (deposits of a pension plan)
  • Corporation/Partnership/Unincorporated Association accounts
  • Government accounts
All amounts that a particular depositor has in accounts in any particular ownership category at a particular bank are added together and are insured up to $250,000.

For joint accounts, each co-owner is assumed (unless the account specifically states otherwise) to own the same fraction of the account as does each other co-owner (even though each co-owner may be eligible to withdraw all funds from the account). Thus if three people jointly own a $750,000 account, the entire account balance is insured because each depositor's $250,000 share of the account is insured.

The owner of a revocable trust account is generally insured up to $250,000 for each unique beneficiary (subject to special rules if there are more than five of them). Thus if there is a single owner of an account that is specified as in trust for (payable on death to, etc.) three different beneficiaries, the funds in the account are insured up to $750,000.

Insured products
FDIC deposit insurance covers deposit accounts, which, by the FDIC definition, include:

Accounts at different banks are insured separately. All branches of a bank are considered to form a single bank. Also, an Internet bank that is part of a brick and mortar bank is not considered to be a separate bank, even if the name differs. Non-US citizens are also covered by FDIC insurance as long as their deposits are in a domestic office of an FDIC-insured bank.[59]

The FDIC publishes a guide entitled "Your Insured Deposits",[60] which sets forth the general characteristics of FDIC deposit insurance, and addresses common questions asked by bank customers about deposit insurance
 

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Why is the thread veering towards bad investments.. This Cac stole his money Smh.. I would want monthly meetings and yearly cross company audits to stray from this type of situation.. Fukked up story
nikkas really not reading this thread.
He wasn't swindled, he didn't make bad investments, the man stole from him point blank. Forged his signature and stole from him.
 

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FDIC: Deposit Insurance FAQs

"The FDIC insures deposits according to the ownership category in which the funds are insured and how the accounts are titled. The standard deposit insurance coverage limit is $250,000 per depositor, per FDIC-insured bank, per ownership category."

He'd get $500,000 and whatever the bank can recover (which is usually jack shyt).

There are investment accounts that are automatically insured for the initial account opening amount. The government requires that the investment branch keep 100% of insured funds on hand at all times (like a Casino).

So if you invest $50,000 and it grows to $75,000, you're insured for 50k.

You cash out the $25,000, reinvest it so that it is also insured.

This is safe investing. You're not going to get rich but you fight off inflation. That's the point.
 

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FDIC: Deposit Insurance FAQs



He'd get $500,000 and whatever the bank can recover (which is usually jack shyt).

There are investment accounts that are automatically insured for the initial account opening amount. The government requires that the investment branch keep 100% of insured funds on hand at all times (like a Casino).

So if you invest $50,000 and it grows to $75,000, you're insured for 50k.

You cash out the $25,000, reinvest it so that it is also insured.

This is safe investing. You're not going to get rich but you fight off inflation. That's the point.
Most of your investments aren't covered by FDIC.
Also FDIC only pays out in the event of a bank failure.

Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation - Wikipedia
Items not insured
Only the above types of accounts are insured. Some types of uninsured products, even if purchased through a covered financial institution, are:[61]

  • Stocks, bonds, and mutual funds including money funds
    • The Securities Investor Protection Corporation, a separate institution chartered by Congress, provides protection against the loss of many types of such securities in the event of a brokerage failure, but not against losses on the investments.
    • Further, as of September 19, 2008, the United States Treasury is offering an optional insurance program for money market funds, which guarantees the value of the assets.[62]
    • Exceptions have occurred, such as the FDIC bailout of bondholders of Continental Illinois.
  • Investments backed by the U.S. government, such as Treasury securities
  • The contents of safe deposit boxes.
    Even though the word deposit appears in the name, under federal law a safe deposit box is not a deposit account – it is merely a secured storage space rented by an institution to a customer.
  • Losses due to theft or fraud at the institution.
    These situations are often covered by special insurance policies that banking institutions buy from private insurance companies.
  • Accounting errors.
    In these situations, there may be remedies for consumers under state contract law, the Uniform Commercial Code, and some federal regulations, depending on the type of transaction.
  • Insurance and annuity products, such as life, auto and homeowner's insurance.
 

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I've seen some terrible investment advice in this thread. How are the 6 figure coli brehs so fukking finacially illiterate:mindblown:
I've posted several time before about stories like his when athletes and entertainers go broke, because my oldest brothers handle actually handles accounts for them, unlike what this idiot fraudulently tried to do. It was a long post but I'll see if I can find it.
Short version is that most of these high earners are not smart and dedicated enough to carve out a few hours a week to manage just own lives, so they get fleeced. Jefferson just got directly swindled, forged signature, not his fault.
 

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I've posted several time before about stories like his when athletes and entertainers go broke, because my oldest brothers handle actually handles accounts for them, unlike what this idiot fraudulently tried to do. It was a long post but I'll see if I can find it.
Short version is that most of these high earners are not smart and dedicated enough to carve out a few hours a week to manage just own lives, so they get fleeced. Jefferson just got directly swindled, forged signature, not his fault.
You obviously didnt read my post:dead:
 

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What was that rap lyric? Got accountants watching my accountants?

Any way, when u have money like that, you gotta have a meeting every 3 months that account for every penny.

Easier said than done tho
 

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He talked about this on his podcast this morning

1. The dude didn't have power of attorney he funnel money from a bank with lax security that didn't require much proof.

2. He caught it during the lockout in 2011 and fired him. It's just now coming out because the FBI finally got around to charge the guy

3. He said don't feel pity for him, he still a Millionaire, still can take care of his family, still got his beach house in LA. He said he was never a big spender so the money he lost didn't impact his quality of living
 

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It's tough though breh. You play basketball 24/7 basically. You're in a different state every 3 days...There's no way you have time to pay the rent, Credit Card bills, car payments, make investments, etc...:ld:

You could try to leave it up to your spouse...or your parents...but we know that's a bad idea :francis:

So you hire a finance guy...he has to have power of attorney because otherwise he has to have you on the phone for EVERYTHING. I mean he can't even check your bank balance without tying you in on 3 way...so if you don't sign that over then the whole thing is pointless:francis:

The real issue here is that it seems like basketball players appear to be easy targets for these snake ass con artists.

Maybe I've been on thecoli too long but that gives me serious:mjpls::mjpls::mjpls: vibes.

Like they think brothers just won't notice:mjpls:
There's absolutely no reason why you can't stay on top of your own finances. Especially someone of no little to no star power. NBA players have tons of downtime in the season. We're talking about Richard Jefferson not Lebron.

Paying someone $250k a year to essentially pay your bills is one of the absolute dumbest things I have ever heard in my life. Just flat out stupid.

If you're dumb enough to let someone talk you into paying them a quarter million dollars to essentially go online, pay bills, and send checks to companies then you deserve whatever you get.
 
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