Everyone wants to pay college athletes, but why not just stop paying the schools?

[KillSpray]

Is not the most obvious solution to money in college sports just to take the money out of college sports? I've read a few pieces on the state of the exploitation in college sports, and of all the popular solutions offered, namely paying college amateur athletes, where are the voices calling for the regulation of how universities and the media can exploit amateur athletics?


It seems to me the quickest way to solve the issue involves some fairly straight forward steps such as: eliminating or limiting the telecast of college sports to local markets (i.e. Ending nationally televised collegiate amateur events), limiting media access to the coaches, players and events (i.e. Stop holding press conferences for collegiate amateur sports), regulating the relationships between sports apparel companies and teams (i.e. Stop allowing Nike to buy its way into amateur collegiate competition), restrict the attendance of live collegiate amateur events to faculty, student, alma mater, perhaps opening a limited amount of tickets to the public, limit all merchandising to exploitation of the school name and logo (i.e. No player jerseys or any other item that even remotely exploits a players likeness).


As much as these things would do to lessen the influence of money on collegiate amateur athletics, they seem so far fetched they're rarely mentioned because the entrenched powers, namely the media, professional leagues, apparel companies and the universities themselves all have an economic interest in the status quo.


Power of the dollar

 

[MustafaSTL]

 

[No1]

Is not the most obvious solution to money in college sports just to take the money out of college sports? I've read a few pieces on the state of the exploitation in college sports, and of all the popular solutions offered, namely paying college amateur athletes, where are the voices calling for the regulation of how universities and the media can exploit amateur athletics?


It seems to me the quickest way to solve the issue involves some fairly straight forward steps such as: eliminating or limiting the telecast of college sports to local markets (i.e. Ending nationally televised collegiate amateur events), limiting media access to the coaches, players and events (i.e. Stop holding press conferences for collegiate amateur sports), regulating the relationships between sports apparel companies and teams (i.e. Stop allowing Nike to buy its way into amateur collegiate competition), restrict the attendance of live collegiate amateur events to faculty, student, alma mater, perhaps opening a limited amount of tickets to the public, limit all merchandising to exploitation of the school name and logo (i.e. No player jerseys or any other item that even remotely exploits a players likeness).


As much as these things would do to lessen the influence of money on collegiate amateur athletics, they seem so far fetched they're rarely mentioned because the entrenched powers, namely the media, professional leagues, apparel companies and the universities themselves all have an economic interest in the status quo.


Power of the dollar

So you'd rather shut down and entire industry than just pay the workers what they're owed. This is like Wal-Mart threatening to close up shop and go somewhere else if nikkas unionize.

 

[resurrection]

Because the people want to watch, there's a market for it. There will never be a situation in life in which there is a legal, viable market for something and loads of money to be made and have it purposefully shut down

 

[KillSpray]

I hear y'all, y'all talking American dollars and sense of course.

But the point I'm making is, if we're talking about amateur collegiate competition put on by institutions of higher learning, there is no condition you could put that on with any integrity while also having hundreds of millions of dollars at play.

So no, it's really nothing at all like your Wal-Mart analogy @BarNone

 

[No1]

I hear y'all, y'all talking American dollars and sense of course.

But the point I'm making is, if we're talking about amateur collegiate competition put on by institutions of higher learning, there is no condition you could put that on with any integrity while also having hundreds of millions of dollars at play.

So no, it's really nothing at all like your Wal-Mart analogy @BarNone

Yes, it is. College sports is a business. Businesses move all the time for marginal benefit out of spite to unions. They'd rather make less elsewhere than set a precedent. You keep using this academic angle, but that's a facade. When I was at Michigan, they made 5 million dollars minimum every home game. There's nothing academic about it. Athletes schedule their classes around sports, not vice versa. You're letting the fact that they are attached to college campuses cloud your judgment.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I hear y'all, y'all talking American dollars and sense of course.

But the point I'm making is, if we're talking about amateur collegiate competition put on by institutions of higher learning, there is no condition you could put that on with any integrity while also having hundreds of millions of dollars at play.

So no, it's really nothing at all like your Wal-Mart analogy @BarNone

There is no amateur athletic circuit that can function with no revenue coming in, they still need equipment, stadiums, coaches, trainers, football especially requires big capital investments. Schools are not going to foot the whole bill for that shyt while they have other pressing needs. Secondly, these revenues often fund other sports that make zero dollars - you're asking for college sports to basically cease to exist. Like breh said, the issue isn't these school making money, it's the fact they can make all this money while every avenue for the college athlete to make money is blocked/a violation.

 

[KillSpray]

Yes, it is. College sports is a business. Businesses move all the time for marginal benefit out of spite to unions. They'd rather make less elsewhere than set a precedent. You keep using this academic angle, but that's a facade. When I was at Michigan, they made 5 million dollars minimum every home game. There's nothing academic about it. Athletes schedule their classes around sports, not vice versa. You're letting the fact that they are attached to college campuses cloud your judgment.

Or I might say that you're letting the fact that they made 5 million a game cloud yours.

It is a business in the literal sense that it generates lots of revenue, but it's not a business in the same sense that Wal-Mart is a business. In the business of higher education the school is the seller, the faculty is the employee and the student is the customer. So what business model is this?

 

[KillSpray]

There is no amateur athletic circuit that can function with no revenue coming in, they still need equipment, stadiums, coaches, trainers, football especially requires big capital investments. Schools are not going to foot the whole bill for that shyt while they have other pressing needs. Secondly, these revenues often fund other sports that make zero dollars - you're asking for college sports to basically cease to exist. Like breh said, the issue isn't these school making money, it's the fact they can make all this money while every avenue for the college athlete to make money is blocked/a violation.

I understand your point, but an amateur athletic circuit ceases to be amateur when it generates enough profits to justify turning the competitors into paid professionals.

 

[killacal]

There is no amateur athletic circuit that can function with no revenue coming in, they still need equipment,

Them cleats sho is not cheaps

 

[He Who Posts Well]

I don't think this will work breh

 

[KillSpray]

I don't think this will work breh

I agree. It probably won't. Mainly because all the most powerful players involved, namely the media who televise and cover the game exhaustively generating revenue, the apparel companies, who use the athletes as walking billboards, the professional leagues, who have a popular farm system that requires no input, management or investment, and the academic institution, who reaps massive revenue from tv rights, live ticketing and merchandise, and finally the fans, who generally just want to be entertained and in many cases harbor deep fascination/envy for the players, have no interest in anything but keeping the gravy train running.

 

[dh86]

The easiest thing to do is the idea Jay Bilas parrots. Let them stay amateur and unpaid but let them profit off their likeness outside the Ncaa

 

[hayesc0]

Anything not to pay nikkas what they worth one star neg rep.

 

[KillSpray]

The easiest thing to do is the idea Jay Bilas parrots. Let them stay amateur and unpaid but let them profit off their likeness outside the Ncaa

It's a start, but it still doesn't address the issue of institutions of higher learning generating more profit from a select group of its own customers (students) than from its core product (education).... Which btw, Goldman Sachs had just recently declared a poor investment Is college worth it? Goldman Sachs says not so much