Every now and then someone says Madvillainy was a classic. That album had no impact.

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I see it pop up in essential album lists (mostly hipster types), and folks on here (most recently with the Alchemist vs Madlib debate), etc.. But I've never heard anyone bumping that album on the street. If they did it was in their earbuds/headphones.

I don't think it can be a classic record if it didn't have at least some impact on the culture, and it had no bearing on the direction of the music or culture. Came and went.
 

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I see it pop up in essential album lists (mostly hipster types), and folks on here (most recently with the Alchemist vs Madlib debate), etc.. But I've never heard anyone bumping that album on the street. If they did it was in their earbuds/headphones.

DOOM and Madlib weren't "for the streets"

They're underground cats.

I don't think it can be a classic record if it didn't have at least some impact on the culture, and it had no bearing on the direction of the music or culture. Came and went.

Madvillainy influenced a generation of artists.[90][91] Among some of them are rappers Joey Badass, the late Capital STEEZ, Bishop Nehru, Tyler, The Creator, Earl Sweatshirt,[4] Danny Brown,[92] Kirk Knight,[93] producer and rapper Flying Lotus,[94]producer and DJ Cashmere Cat,[95] neo soul collective Jungle,[96] indie rock band Cults,[97] and Radiohead singer Thom Yorke.[4][98] According to Earl Sweatshirt, Madvillainy influenced his generation the same way Wu-Tang Clan influenced the rappers of 1990s with their album Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers).[99] In 2009 a video of Mos Def working on his album The Ecstatic in a studio was released. In the video he praised Doom, saying that "he rhymes as weird as I feel", and recited some of Doom's lines, including the ones from Madvillainy.

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100% agreed

Very good album that gets placed on the all time great classic pedestal.

Imo maybe top 10 overrated hiphop records

Dont get it twisted...damn good album bit i never got the overwhelming praise....seems like its most "real hiphop" cacs and bakkpakk nikkas who swoon over it

MF Doom is crazy overrated imo....he nice but he not all that
 

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Op smoking crack. This album influenced some rappers whole careers(early). How many producers try to copy that sonic sound but can't get them strings right like mad-lib. Most underground shyt ain't being played in the streets back than or now. Just like nikkaz bumpin uzi vert and migos out they speakers now a days but u rarely hear any of the underground classics of this year blasting (fetti, dark lo, etc.) . its just not mainstream music. Doesn't mean its not classic material. It just has a more cult following.
 
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I'mma be 100, I've never heard a doom project all the way through. Should I start with this? Everything I've heard from him has been tight, but just never felt the need to fully dive in.

Hows his tape with bishop nehru?
 

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That's dumb. It inspired entire sub-genres and been referenced by several legends over the years. Sound collage type mixtape albums have been around but MV hit a new high at a time when hip-hop norms were starting to change. Also sold fairly well for an album like that, back then, when you see someone like Earl selling decently with more of a star power and label push in 2018... The album was also a critic darling, and really propelled Stones Throw/LA beat scene into the light, including Dilla of course... Its constantly mentioned in most influential albums of the 00s... Its a transcending piece of work, and it shouldn't lose points for that either...

Such a terrible opinion...
 

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I like Madlib, but could never get into Doom. Other than “Fancy Clown” (the sample) I didn’t enjoy anything from those two.
 

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I'mma be 100, I've never heard a doom project all the way through. Should I start with this? Everything I've heard from him has been tight, but just never felt the need to fully dive in.

Hows his tape with bishop nehru?
Bump "Operation Doomsday"

Yet ANOTHER UG Classic and a damn near flawless album
 
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