EST Gee was a college football player...

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How in the fukk do you get caught with 100k in cash, one single brick, a chop, and a pistol? At a hotel? Did this fool think this sh-t was a music video? I still can’t believe people think carrying a strap with weight is effective in 2021. All that sh*t does is enhance your charges. Get caught with a brick, you may get a chance to take that 5 and get out in 3.5 with a drug treatment and good time. Now he’s facing a min of 10 and they got a nice amount of bread that he could’ve left for his family while he is away.
 

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Marvin Harrison was an elite athlete his whole life way better than est gee and people talk about him like J Prince

you not a street nikka, so you can't check anybody

if nobody from kentucky is calling him out or people who know him are calling him fake, how can you make any assumptions

the nikka really don't rap about shyt other than basic hood shyt anybody can do

anybody can sell drugs, anybody bust a gun and kill someone or rob someone

you don't need any type of special pedigree to do any of this shyt you just have to want to do it

Blace Icewood is the Detroit 2pac and he from a suburb called southfield, his pops was a big time dope dealer so he was raised in the game

We have no idea what people in his city are saying unless you are from there.
A lot of people hop on tracks and front
Detroit is damn Detroit you can get it anywhere a Detroit suburb is still the hood damn near. And Blade was official and surrounded by official cats.
 

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It’s like mf either purposely disregarded OP point or just don’t comprehend it.

Yes there can be athletes who are in the streets on the side.

The issue is why do most rappers gravitate to the street raps when they’ve never been in that life.

It’s not a old vs young thing either. Look at that Kay Slay 100 deep video. You got older artist on there & basically everyone on them talking about some form of violence or street life. This is a culture issue & has been going on for too long.
 

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One of my oldest bros was like this. Ranked. Could have went anywhere. Ruined his senior year being truant smh

I did my junior year in North Carolina, there was a running back on the team at my school who had offers from damn near all the major programs, this was 2005-06 school year/2005 season. A couple things hurt this guy:

•he was not book smart. Dude would show up to classes late, but even when he was on time, his education level was not on 11th-grade level. He got a lot of freebies and passes on his academics that ran out on him his senior year, 2006...

•he knocked up this Boricua chick in his junior year and she ended up having his baby I think the beginning of senior year? I wasn't there as a senior but I remember her stomach being big as shyt around Spring '06, end of junior year. On top of bring dumb, he had a baby on the way...

•at that time he wasn't gang affiliated or in the streets but he used to roll with GDs and their influence on him was obviously spreading. On top of being dumb and a high school father, he had eyes on street dreams and started neglecting football responsibilities...

The way I understand the story is senior year he got kicked outta public school because of academics, he wasn't a cut up or getting in trouble at school, he was just a pothead with a lower than 11th grade learning level. They pushed him into this private school, and I think the year that would have been his freshman college year, 2007(07/08 school year), he still was in high school and started the season playing ball. For some reason or other he didn't finish that season and that was it..

The backstory I understand is fam was such a gifted football player, was on varsity at 14 and receiving scholarship offers all thru 9th/10th/11th grade. He was a special player, easily the best football player I was ever around, and could have been a redshirt starter as a True freshman in '07 anywhere, on some AD shyt (that was actually one of the comps with fam, another Adrian Peterson, just a few years younger)...

He got an assault on female charge in '08 that pretty much pulled away any remaining schools who were interested, and I guess this is the time he started running the streets (like I said the year I was in high school he wasnt)...

He caught some minor possesion charges thru the years and did like 6 months back in '12 for getting caught with some light weed, then he hooked up with some dudes who put him on. There's a popular Cali rapper he was plugged in with back in 2015/16, guy is a C-list rapper in terms of notoriety and acclaim, maybe D-list, but he has a strong underground following and most people on this forum would have heard of him...

And there's a DC rapper who he was in with back around '17 who plugged him. Fam was a late bloomer who been dealing for well over a decade now, and as far as I know he's never had an actual job of any type. I ran across him once in my adult life, back in '16 when I was living in VA, someone told me to meet with these local rappers who were trying to score some work. Football Guy wasn't one of the rappers but that trip to NC I ran into him, then a friend of mine at the time told me he was a snitch and to watch how I associate with dude...

The snitch accusations make sense from the standpoint that if you are early 30s and still dealing, and been doing so since 20-21 years old, without having to do any real time outside of 6 months, but everybody knows you playing with some respectable weight, unless you The Connect, cats don't generally have 11-12 year runs unblemished. That's not how it works, and the dudes you know who hands are dirty for years and never go do time, alota them guys are informants. I don't know if he is or isn't but the accusation makes sense...

We weren't even on that level, just bumped into each other somewhere, but someone else corroborated the "snitch jacket" at a later date. Fam ain't rich but he's not broke either, he's with a click of dudes pushing this young NC rapper right now, and they all dealers. He isnt unknown to police either, like I said he has a small rap sheet and he got shot in the chest back in 2018, and because he's a former high school football star, every time this nikka does something he's in the news----->plus he comes from a really well off Family, his dad worked in some prominent city position and his mom had a high position with the school board. Nothing I've mentioned here would be unknown to any law enforcement because him and his click of young heads he run with are not unknown to the boys in NC...

I'm not even close to his situation or ever was and I know all this about dude. He's not quiet, neither is his team, and again he has a name well known that predates his street activity so when he linked with street dudes it put him more on the radar...

I'm saying all this to say, these prep stars turned street dudes, are easy to spot. The guy I'm describing is the most prominent but not the only one I know...
 

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I think what everyone is missing from the point of this convo is that EST has many non-street stories he can tell but doesn’t so he can appear “more hood”
It's at the point now where it's just the image that certain people expect of a "rapper". Sadly, that audience tends to move on to the next thing over and over, and there's very little shelf-life for these kinds of rappers. How many have we seen come and go over the years. And what's different about the ones that transcend? They tend to have some artistry and creativity with their content
 

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I think what everyone is missing from the point of this convo is that EST has many non-street stories he can tell but doesn’t so he can appear “more hood”

It's at the point now where it's just the image that certain people expect of a "rapper". Sadly, that audience tends to move on to the next thing over and over, and there's very little shelf-life for these kinds of rappers. How many have we seen come and go over the years. And what's different about the ones that transcend? They tend to have some artistry and creativity with their content

this just an EST gee thing

every rapper has more to tell about themselves other than being a street nikkas

rapping about street shyt is the cheat code tho
 
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