ESPN’s top 25 NBA players of the 21st century

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Duncan was better though.

But if Kobe is your favorite because he took a lot of shots and scored a lot of points and felt his game was pretty, that's cool too.
Don’t forget he dominated your boy when they COMPETED against each other. So yes. Kobe was better.
 

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IMO if you follow some sort of criteria this isn’t THAT hard, at least to get the tiers right. The real list:

Tier 1: multiple chips as a #1

1. Bron
2. Shaq
3. Duncan
4. Kobe
5. Steph

Tier 2: 1 chip as a #1 (KD on GS always hard to judge but he’s in here)

6. Jokic
7. Giannis
8. KD
9. Wade
10. Dirk
11. KG
12. Kawhi

Tier 3: no chip but MVP

13. Harden
14. AI
15. Nash
16. Westbrook
17. Embiid

Tier 4: 2 way all timers pause

18. AD
19. Dwight Howard
20. Cp3
21. Kidd

Tier 5: Finals MVPs

22. Paul Pierce
23. Tony Parker

Tier 6: Finals appearance as a #1

24. Luka
25. Jimmy Butler (Jimmy also has 2-way status)

Imo the top 23 can’t be debated bc they all have some type of significant individual accolade outside of all stars/all nba. And you need that bc every guy on the list is an all star/all nba; you gotta have something tangible. So Pao, Ray, Manu come off bc they don’t have that. Draymond has a DPOY but doesn’t bring enough offensively. Others in the running who don’t have it: Klay, Lillard, Bosh, Webber. One could argue tier 6 could be scoring title. Melo has 1 but so does Luka. Tmac has 2 so he’s right there also. But Jimmy with 2 carry jobs to get to the finals puts him over them
 
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REVISIONIST TRIED TO SAY
WE WERE MAKING shyt UP
WHEN WERE POINTING OUT THE MEDIA
USED TO RANK DRAYMOND AS A TOP 10 PLAYER ...

TALKING ABOUT WHY YOU DOING
"DRAYMOND GREEN VS THE WORLD
WHEN NOBODY EVER CLAIMED HE WAS
ON THAT LEVEL"
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Casuals and or dummies
 
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