Elite's deplorable double standard on corruption (Cory Booker related)

[88m3]

In my post, I specifically mentioned an ACLU lawsuit. That's what got the emails released in the first place.

And after that? What? Nothing?

 

[theworldismine13]

Ok, here's one example. The Zuckerberg deal was corrupt. He traded dozens of secret emails with Zuck about the private donors and their illegal plans to remold the public schools in accordance what was profitable for those private providers (there's your quid pro quo,) then had his admin explicitly deny that both the schemes and those communications ever existed. After the NJ ACLU filed a case against them, a judge ordered the admin to release the emails, and that's the only reason those schemes were exposed. Even if you agree with Booker's plans for those schools, that move was plainly illegal.

what bunch of crock, the "private providers" were donors, it wasnt the private school administrators that were donating the money,

the 100 million had to be matched and the emails were talking about how to get oprah and bill gates and other private donors and regular citizens involved, but there was no profit motive anywhere

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...rk-zuckerbergs-100-million-to-newark-schools/

nowhere is there evidence for your allegation that "their illegal plans to remold the public schools in accordance what was profitable for those private providers", there was nothing illegal going on

 

[The Real]

what bunch of crock, the "private providers" were donors, it wasnt the private school administrators that were donating the money,

the 100 million had to be matched and the emails were talking about how to get oprah and bill gates and other private donors and regular citizens involved, but there was no profit motive anywhere

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...rk-zuckerbergs-100-million-to-newark-schools/

nowhere is there evidence for your allegation that "their illegal plans to remold the public schools in accordance what was profitable for those private providers", there was nothing illegal going on

Who said anything about private school admins? The point is that Booker was courting private donations by promising the donors that they would be able to influence the way the public school system was run- this includes profit for particular donors, in accordance with their private vision, which he just happens to share. That is plainly illegal. Public school policy isn't for sale. And let's also not pretend that this was some everyday process, since there's a reason Booker's admin lied about the emails and scheme even existing and weren't planning to inform the public about any aspect of the plan until forced by court order.

 

[theworldismine13]

Who said anything about private school admins? The point is that Booker was courting private donations by promising the donors that they would be able to influence the way the public school system was run- this includes profit for particular donors, in accordance with their private vision, which he just happens to share. That is plainly illegal. Public school policy isn't for sale. And let's also not pretend that this was some everyday process, since there's a reason Booker's admin lied about the emails and scheme even existing and weren't planning to inform the public about any aspect of the plan until forced by court order.

how would it include profits for the donors? that makes no sense, you are saying that bill gates, oprah, gayle king and newark citizens were going to profit?

your original statement was "their illegal plans to remold the public schools in accordance what was profitable for those private providers"

how would it be profitable for them?

having a discussion with donors about public school policy is not illegal, why would that be illegal?

 

[The Real]

I'm commuting now, so I'll elaborate on profit later, but you're still ignoring the crux, which is that public school policy is not for sale. Private donors do not get to buy influence on public school policy. And answer this- why did they lie about the emails if they're so transparent and legal?

 

[theworldismine13]

I'm commuting now, so I'll elaborate on profit later, but you're still ignoring the crux, which is that public school policy is not for sale. Private donors do not get to buy influence on public school policy. And answer this- why did they lie about the emails if they're so transparent and legal?

im not ignoring the crux, im confronting it directly, there is no law that says you cant discuss public school policy with donors, private donors do get to influence how their money is spent and there is nothing wrong with discussing policy with them, there is no quid pro quo because the donors do not have a profit incentive

 

[88m3]

I guess the real is just going to ignore my question.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

this is so corny, when did speaking fees become corruption? how was the 100 million dollar zuckerberg gift secret? name one politician that doesnt get money from wall street? and what is the quid pro quo in all of this?

Bingo.

I read the whole article and failed to find anything that was actually ILLEGAL.

Now you could mention that it should be harder to embrace conflicts of interest, but in a nation of laws, all we have is the law. Morality is ultimately whatevers on the books.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Speaking fees in themselves aren't corruption (though the people he spoke to will certainly received special favors from his admin,) but public service positions aren't and shouldn't be springboards for profiteering, especially when there are so many problems to be solved. The Zuckerberg gift itself wasn't a secret, but the deal he made in order to secure the money was. And naming one politician that doesn't get money from wall street has no bearing on the fact that moneyed interests shouldn't have the kind of hold they do on campaign funds.

Obama verbalized his discontent for Citizens United...but you can't lose on a moral technicality. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

 

[Crakface]

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww you guys really believe in the system.

Dont expect fairness, just get your money.