Egyptians mad at Kevin Hart for saying Ancient Egyptians were Black Africans

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The reason sphinxes have no noses is because those white archaelogists cut them off. Scholars and scientists may not have said "they were white" but they made sure to not say "they were black". And given how the world saw things in that time, everyone assumed they were white.
Where is the evidence for this? I think people overestimate how much this belief exists in the minds of people. I think white people see ancient Egyptians similar to how they see present day Arabs, which is to say different from themselves and not as 'white'.

Of course they value their cultures differently perhaps but that's another matter.
 

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Back home for the holidays...was discussing with family about the original Egyptians (founding dynasties) being Black Africans. Looked up an old encyclopedia from the mid 80's that said Egyptians "belonged to the European geographical race" but had "dark skins" :beli: White racists just make stuff up when faced with inconvenient truths.
 

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there have always been "black looking" Egyptians

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DETROIT (CNN) -- An Egyptian immigrant is suing the U.S. government because they've told him he's white when his entire life he's been black.

Mostafa Hefny was born in Egypt and has always been proud of his Egyptian culture and his African ancestry. But when Hefny immigrated to America, the U.S. government told him he was no longer a black man.


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Anyone who’s ever filled out a census document or taken the SATs is familiar with that odd moment when you have to bubble in your racial classification. For many, the choices are confusing, limiting, and problematic. In the end, each person bubbles in what they best feel represents their identity. But when Mostafa Hefny immigrated to the United States from Egypt in 1978, he didn’t get a say in that decision.

“The government [interviewer] said, ‘You are now white,” Hefny told CBS Detroit.

Since the 1980s, CBS reports, Henfy has been fighting to have the U.S. government reclassify him as black, which is how he’s always seen himself. “My classification as a white man takes away my black pride, my black heritage and my strong black identity,” Henfy told the Detroit News.

Hefny, 61, filed a suit in 1997 against the U.S. government to be reclassified, but his case was dismissed. Hefny has also reached out to President Obama for help, writing him a letter on June 29, the Detroit News reports, as well as the Justice Department and the United Nations.

“I have been awarded, inadvertently, the negative effects of being black such as racial profiling, stereotypes and disenfranchisement due to my Negroid features. However, the legal demand of my racial classification of ‘white’ prevents me from receiving benefits established for black people, “ he told CBS. Hefny says he’s lost out on university teaching positions because they were positions designed for a minority and he did not qualify.
 

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there have always been "black looking" Egyptians

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Yup.

Coptic Egyptians are definitely mad diverse. There are ones that can pass White, ones that can pass Black, and everything in-between.

I'd be interested to know how much is different genetic origins and how much is just minor variations in skin color genes. In some cases it's just the skin that's different and in other cases it's many features. Often the darker-skinned ones come from "Upper Egypt", especially closer to the Sudanese border. I would assume that's more from having extra Eastern African genetics than Western African genetics though.
 
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I am more inclined to believe those who interacted with the people of Kemet/Egypt than someone from today with an obvious bias and likely using cakesoap ("fair and lovely") to bleach their skin.

Theodorus, Strabo, Herodotus, and plenty of other Greeks who were interacting with Egyptians described them as darkskin people with woolly hair. Those are first hand accounts.

And Egypt was ancient around the time of the Greco-Roman occupation as well.
 
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Having been to Egypt, the ones that look more like Black Americans are called "Nubians" and live in the southern part of the country primarily. But make no mistake, the ancient Egyptians were black from all the museums and artifacts my wife and I saw during our time there. The ones there now are primarily Arab lookin egyptians, not the OGs. They call us Nubians.
 
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