Durango GPU Detailed

[Kodie]

I think this is new news. If I'm wrong, I'll close this. If you're not aware, Durango is the codename for next xbox. New details about its graphics unit have been leaked and you can find them here:

World Exclusive: Durango’s GPU detailed -

If you can read that shyt, more power to you. The bottom line seems to be that Orbis (the next playstation) has a better GPU than the Durango. The comparison points used are:

Durango vs Orbis
32 ROPS vs 16 ROPS
1.2 TFLOPS vs 1.8 TFLOPS

Apparently, ROPS isn't a very important number but TFLOPS is. Maybe someone better versed in hardware can speak to why this is. I know that TFLOPs basically represents the number of operations per second it can run but I'm not sure what ROPS means at all.

A couple disclaimers:
- These are still rumors but I don't think any of it is far from the truth. Many devs have kits now so leaks are to be expected
- Specs may change. We've seen that before.
- Even TFLOPs doesn't mean much. GPU is only one part of the system, etc etc.
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The thing about TFLOPS is that it's an arbitrary number more geared towards PC benchmarks. In a closed box environment it holds far less weight compared to PCs.

Let the debate commence.

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Where is the ESRAM?

 

[GetInTheTruck]

 

[Loose]

Its new but we already knew this they should have talked about the data move engines or the display planes

 

[Big Blue]

If it can play true 1080p with anti aliasing then IDGAF how it compares to the PS4. Save first party games and exclusives, the graphics will be nearly identical.

 

[aXiom]

The thing about TFLOPS is that it's an arbitrary number more geared towards PC benchmarks. In a closed box environment it holds far less weight compared to PCs.

Example: Try running Skyrim/Crysis 2/BF3 on a 7900GT(The RSX in the PS3 is basically a gimped version of this card, with 256MB of DDR3 and tops out at about 240 GFLOPS). You'd have to play on Medium or Low settings to get playable frame rates. Yet the 360/PS3 with 7/8 year old tech still manages to play these games and put out games like GT5/Halo 4/Killzone 3/GeOW3 etc.

So imagine what the PS4/720 is gonna do with new tech that's 7-8x more powerful than their predecessors, and that's besides new and improved architecture. Both systems are gonna have stunning visuals, the whole TFLOP thing is just a dikk measuring contest really.

 

[Kodie]

If it can play true 1080p with anti aliasing then IDGAF how it compares to the PS4. Save first party games and exclusives, the graphics will be nearly identical.

The thing is it wil be able to play current games at 1080p with AA but next gen games are going to have better lighting and better shader effects and millions of particles so basically it's going to be mostly back to 720p or less and 30fps

The thing about TFLOPS is that it's an arbitrary number more geared towards PC benchmarks. In a closed box environment it holds far less weight compared to PCs.

Example: Try running Skyrim/Crysis 2/BF3 on a 7900GT(The RSX in the PS3 is basically a gimped version of this card, with 256MB of DDR3 and tops out at about 240 GFLOPS). You'd have to play on Medium or Low settings to get playable frame rates. Yet the 360/PS3 with 7/8 year old tech still manages to play these games and put out games like GT5/Halo 4/Killzone 3/GeOW3 etc.

So imagine what the PS4/720 is gonna do with new tech that's 7-8x more powerful than their predecessors, and that's besides new and improved architecture. Both systems are gonna have stunning visuals, the whole TFLOP thing is just a dikk measuring contest really.

Agreed, adding part of this to OP

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

The thing is it wil be able to play current games at 1080p with AA but next gen games are going to have better lighting and better shader effects and millions of particles so basically it's going to be mostly back to 720p or less and 30fps

You are never going to see developers target 60fps when they don't have to. You can see better graphics in a screenshot, you can't see better frame rate that way.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Well hopefully xbox has good gimmicks this time around. PS3 as a gaming console has it locked this time.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Reading the GAF comments on this.

Looks like MS isn't putting nearly the power in the new Xbox as they should/could.

No stanning for once, but I don't get it. Are they trying to push Windows 8 and Kinect that hard?

 

[Loose]

Reading the GAF comments on this.

Looks like MS isn't putting nearly the power in the new Xbox as they should/could.

No stanning for once, but I don't get it. Are they trying to push Windows 8 and Kinect that hard?

neither are powerful at all going if you go by PC specs these aren't pcs though they're closed systems. We already knew the GPU would be weaker , but we still know nothing about the custom x86, data move engine or display planes. Both of these systems are ultra conservative sony is even more conservative.


and tbh If Kinect 2.0 is anywhere near how kinect is designed to be i cant wait.

 

[Rekkapryde]

neither are powerful at all going if you go by PC specs these aren't pcs though they're closed systems. We already knew the GPU would be weaker , but we still know nothing about the custom x86, data move engine or display planes. Both of these systems are ultra conservative sony is even more conservative.

PCs aren't a good comparison as there is no windows OS to worry about (well, the windows 8 shyt in the next xbox might be interesting)

IF the info is correct, the Orbis GPU/CPU combo is big time stronger. This Gen the Xbox had a better GPU hands down and it took the Cell power to show the strength of the ps3. It took a while for other to get the cell programming down, which definitely hurt early in the ps3's first year.

I don't know bruh...

 

[DMR]

FLOPS is basically a number of operations a processor can do in a second, new xbox but we all knew that

 

[Loose]

PCs aren't a good comparison as there is no windows OS to worry about (well, the windows 8 shyt in the next xbox might be interesting)

IF the info is correct, the Orbis GPU/CPU combo is big time stronger. This Gen the Xbox had a better GPU hands down and it took the Cell power to show the strength of the ps3. It took a while for other to get the cell programming down, which definitely hurt early in the ps3's first year.

I don't know bruh...

The Durango rumored CPU is an custom x86 that is based on the jaguar(ps4s cpu) that we know nothing about, same with the DME and the display planes. I dont even know why Vg even released this considering we already knew about this but nothing on the other three ??? mark components. I just cant wait til all this stuff officially leak and more importantly the games and software are shown.

 

[The_Sheff]

Reading the GAF comments on this.

Looks like MS isn't putting nearly the power in the new Xbox as they should/could.

No stanning for once, but I don't get it. Are they trying to push Windows 8 and Kinect that hard?

Dont take too much away from the GAF crowd. All they care about are raw specs. If you go look in the Orbis thread you will see them talking smack about it too in comparison to their super computers.

Its like they live in a world where PC gaming is actually king. They ignore the fact that the overwhelming majority of the gaming public does not know shyt about how powerful certain GPUs, CPUs, etc... are.