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It's okay friend. All issues aside, no one here thinks you're advocating any of his policies. You just liked his points. Now you're educated about the man.
Only the jihadists don't believe you.
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It's okay friend. All issues aside, no one here thinks you're advocating any of his policies. You just liked his points. Now you're educated about the man.
Only the jihadists don't believe you.
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You honestly think Vic would be for the shyt this man has said in other places?
Put your issues with him aside and be honest.
Yeah he used to be decent but, he got progressively more right wing in his positions over the past couple of years.
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There is a far leap between "interested in Palestinian issues" and "anti-Zionism."
Also, you're obviously misrepresenting his claims. He says the people who rage against Israel are supporting all of the things that the Palestinians represent: Rampant anti-Semitism, genocidal ideation, glorification of Jihad, murder of Jews, etc. And that is true. You cannot support a movement without supporting, or being accepting of the outcome of that movement.
The JIDF is nuts, but notice they labeled him anti-semitic scum because he disagreed with settlements. But I know, he's a pro-Israel "shill." BTW, I looked up shill in the dictionary, and that does not describe him at all.
Well, he claims that the entire Palestinian cause is a "sham" (his words) and that it's being used as a pawn for a giant Muslim conspiracy that wants to destroy Israel and turn the Middle East into a caliphate, and that the entire Western leftist support-base for the Palestinians has been roped into this conspiracy, knowingly or not. That's very different from a straightforward critique of anti-Zionism and antisemitism.
I think it's fair to call someone who believes that Israel has an indisputable right to exist but that Palestinians do not a shill, breh. I didn't mean it in the conspiratorial sense of the term, so if you want, I'll just be more precise and call him an extremist, but regardless, it doesn't get much more black and white or extreme than that imo.
He disagreed with settlements because he identified the settlements he was discussing as religious in inspiration (which many of them are) and he hates religion and doesn't think it belongs in political claims, not because of anything intrinsic to Jewish people or specific to Judaism, so even if one disagrees, I don't think his view can legitimately be called antisemitic.
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I suppose it depends how you define "an entire cause." It seems like you're defining it by "anyone and everyone who is part of the cause." If you observe the discrepancy between what Palestinian leaders say in Arabic, and what they say in English, you would have no choice but to call their cause a sham.
Opposing a Palestinian state can simply mean "hey, I prefer that Jews don't get brutally murdered just so that the Palestinians can quench their thirst for land." That's not an extremist position at all.
I agree with you on this point. This is why I said the JIDF was nuts. The point is, he doesn't support everything Israel does.
Maybe thats why VickyVonc00n could relate so well to the nikkas sense of humor.
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bytch please. You probably take bubble baths and get your eyebrows arched.
Whoa whoa whoaaaaa, im too tough for that bruh. You draw your thin ass Genuine goatee on with eyeliner though you bytch ass nikka.
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Fukk your corny debates
Whoa whoa whoaaaaa, im too tough for that bruh. You draw your thin ass Genuine goatee on with eyeliner though you bytch ass nikka.
You put this on your ringworm-infected hairline ever morning, you 50 year old
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