Doesn’t even look at the rim he’s fone
Dream Weavers: Detroit Pistons Thread 2022-2023
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Doesn’t even look at the rim he’s fone
It’s more to it than raw numbers though as Ant had better numbers than Melo and he still didn’t win ROY. You have to look at the entire season of work instead of certain segments and both Mobley and Barnes deserved it over him.
JasoRockStar
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That boy is just another Frank Ntilikina. The sooner Pistons fans come to terms with how bad he is instead of trying to lie and cope about how "good" he is defensively, the better.
JasoRockStar
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The only reason why Melo won over Ant and why Mobley and Barnes won over Cade is because of team success, that's it.
People tried to hand him a second rookie season last year, you know a player is in trouble when that happens. I gave up on him when he looked just as shaky in summer league
The media has its own bias towards Detroit. I remember Cade being considered a generational talent and next in line until the Pistons won the lottery, then the discourse changed
JasoRockStar
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They biased against Michigan as a whole if we're being honest, but that's a convo for a whole nother day....
But you're right about the Cade hype too. Cade was the most hyped prospect in his class by far. Mobley had buzz too, but Cade was the one getting daily ESPN segments, the media was all about him being No 1. Then the Pistons won, then folks were pushing this fake "uncertainty" about him going No 1. All of a sudden, Green or Mobley could potentially be the top pick.
You do know that the Hornets didn't make the playoffs the year Melo won MVP right? If Ant was even average the first half of his rookie season then he would have won ROY over Lamelo. Dudes efficiency that first half of the season was straight ass.
Mobley and Barnes were more consistent their rookie season over Cade. Posters gotta stop being fooled over raw numbers as everyone is putting them up these days.
djthegreat88
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We all came to conclusion Killian was trash a while ago. We wish he was as good as Ntilikina. He is atleast an NBA role player. Killian does not belong in NBA period
djthegreat88
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Why we arguing this Cade vs rookie class mess again. Cade is the lead dog in Detroit while Barnes and Mobley are role players on much better teams. Cade was the consensus top pick for a reason. He’ll be an efficiency mess due to his usage. But he also has bland game that doesn’t have mass appeal of someone like Jalen Green. But there is nothing Cade can’t do on court.
Ant should have won rookie of the year because he was the better player. He had uphill battle to catch Melo because of the Ball star power
Ant should have won rookie of the year because he was the better player. He had uphill battle to catch Melo because of the Ball star power
JasoRockStar
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I disagree. The only reason the Hornets didn't make it was because they lost in the play-in tournament to the Pacers. The Timberwolves were never in the conversation for a playoff or a play-in that year. They finished near dead-last in the Western Conference standings. And Barnes and Mobley tend to play closer to the basket than Cade does, and have less responsibility when it comes to directing the offense, playmaking, etc. Of course they would have better efficiency ratings. The fact that they were as close as they were despite that fact is a testament to Cade.
Ant was literally the worst defender at his position his rookie year and his assist to turnover ratio was laughable even with his 2nd half of the season performance. It’s those type of things that work against a player even with putting up good numbers. It’s exacr
Bring up a players entire body of work instead of picking and choosing what you want to use to fit a narrative. It’s exactly what people tried to do with Ant his rookie year.
Man, fukk that Rookie off the year shyt. That shyt don't matter at all as these guys careers progress. Don't nobody care that Ben Simmons and Donovan Mitchell was a debate for ROY bank then with the way they both playing now, and it's gonna be the same thing with Cade. Last night's game was a good lesson for him because with these bank to bank sane team matchups they have it almost gives a playoff like adjustment period for the teams. Cade got gameplanned more for this game and he struggled. Go ahead and get these tough lessons in early to be ready when shyt ramp up.
