Draymond Green punched Jordan Poole: He apologized and will step away from the team a few day's

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You said the vibes were great? But then draymond punched someone.
You say you have great leadership? Draymonds a leader.
You say you’ve been through this before? Because of other shyt draymond has done.

I can’t stand this team. Just confirm the story and keep it moving.
This is an interesting discussion, in itself.

Can there still be great leadership and great vibes and these instances still occur? What is the standard we typically hold for leadership, it's winning, ain't it? The 90s Bulls had these same type of issues, yet does anyone question their leadership? I'm not saying that you're wrong for questioning the leadership/vibes, but it's interesting how folks perceive these things.

The fact that this thread is made up of a large majority of posts which act like the sky is falling or putting far too much emphasis on the effects of the altercation is telling.
 

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This is an interesting discussion, in itself.

Can there still be great leadership and great vibes and these instances still occur? What is the standard we typically hold for leadership, it's winning, ain't it? The 90s Bulls had these same type of issues, yet does anyone question their leadership? I'm not saying that you're wrong for questioning the leadership/vibes, but it's interesting how folks perceive these things.

The fact that this thread is made up of a large majority of posts which act like the sky is falling or putting far too much emphasis on the effects of the altercation is telling.


Same folks "xxx couldn't play in the 90s...".....


Cats kill me, word to @NYC Rebel

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But Dray can't go around punching the guys... Discipline him, absolutely. Dump him?

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Right, so why was Rodman liked, but not Draymond, when they're almost identical in style and how they operate? How can there be such a contrast in likability given that they're the same player, in this context?

If you know the answer to that, then you know it's nothing to do with Draymond being unlikeable.
People generally don't like athletes who are as outwardly and vocally arrogant as Draymond is, especially when their perceived skill doesn't match that attitude. For all his antics that was really never Rodman.
 

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This folks is what you call an agenda. Curry said that in reference to JP alleged attitude in camp is not what started the fight

Clearly as I said there was mutual combat(pushing & shoving). Obviously Dray went overboard by punching but people on here acting as if Poole was minding his own business or that they were just having words prior is disingenuous.

Posters move like females picking & choosing who they like instead of right vs wrong. They were both in the wrong. Dray deserves a heavier punishment if given.
agenda :dead:

if Dray doesn't throw a punch, will the story be Poole doing whatever you imagined he did?
Dray is wrong. punching is one threshold you don't cross
that's why he apologized not Poole. it's not complicated.
 

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This is an interesting discussion, in itself.

Can there still be great leadership and great vibes and these instances still occur? What is the standard we typically hold for leadership, it's winning, ain't it? The 90s Bulls had these same type of issues, yet does anyone question their leadership? I'm not saying that you're wrong for questioning the leadership/vibes, but it's interesting how folks perceive these things.

The fact that this thread is made up of a large majority of posts which act like the sky is falling or putting far too much emphasis on the effects of the altercation is telling.
I don’t think the vibes matter as much on a team with strong vets like the Warriors. I just thought it was weird to tout all those things and not acknowledge that Draymond was at fault for the bad stuff but also responsible for the good stuff. I thought it would have been a good opportunity to articulate that. It came across as phony. Especially the “ask the players” bit. I just hate everything about the team tho to be fair.

I don’t know that having a fist fight in the 90’s would have been something to get suspended for and if it got out to the media wouldn’t have been looked at adversely. It wouldn’t have warranted a press conference at least.

Not because the 90’s were super tough but the world was just different. We’ve prioritized feelings and the way things look to point of parody.

I don’t even remember what point I was trying to make. I’m faded. fukk draymond, fukk bob myers, and fukk the warriors while organization.
 

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Right, so why was Rodman liked, but not Draymond, when they're almost identical in style and how they operate? How can there be such a contrast in likability given that they're the same player, in this context?
I’m going to defer to the older heads as I was a kid and didn’t keep up with what the nation thought but was Rodman universally beloved at the time? I feel like a lot of people would have been bothered by his antics.

Also, I think Draymond’s talking about how great he is is a major difference. Off the court Rodman was doing wild shyt people were bugged out on off the court draymond is hosting a podcast and constantly reminding people he’s great and the smartest guy in the room.
 

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How high up the TNT pecking order is Chris Haynes? Gonna be interesting if he has to work a GSW game this season cuz we've now seen Iggy/Kerr/Steph/Myers make it a point to shyt on his "report" that Poole was acting different.
Shame he got caught in the fire but this is what happens when you let players be your sources, it was very obvious that was from Draymond.
 

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I’m going to defer to the older heads as I was a kid and didn’t keep up with what the nation thought but was Rodman universally beloved at the time? I feel like a lot of people would have been bothered by his antics.

Also, I think Draymond’s talking about how great he is is a major difference. Off the court Rodman was doing wild shyt people were bugged out on off the court draymond is hosting a podcast and constantly reminding people he’s great and the smartest guy in the room.
Rodman was polarizing back then. Plenty of people thought he was a bozo. There's been some rose colored glasses with how he's talked about now.

Like Draymond was a negative for much of the playoffs, Rodman was the same at the end of his Chicago run as well.
 
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People generally don't like athletes who are as outwardly and vocally arrogant as Draymond is, especially when their perceived skill doesn't match that attitude. For all his antics that was really never Rodman.
That's only a justification for why they don't like him, but it's not the reason for why do.

And I think you're misremembering, don't know, or not properly contextualizing the lack of media coverage of the era that Rodman existed in.

He was definitely outwardly and vocally arrogant, and to the point where his perceived skill didn't match his attitude. He acted like a diva everywhere he went (which to be fair to him, was a lot to do with his mental health), and whatever indiscretion that folks believe Draymond has done throughout his career, Rodman is guilty of, ten-fold.

His stint in SA is the most telling of all. He did everything in his power to sabotage that squad. It got so bad that the Spurs had to send him to a psychologist in Detroit because they weren't capable of dealing with his shyt, he got suspended (multiple times), then he only showed up for games he wanted to (rarely ever practiced with the team), then he wanted to retire mid-season, to him quitting in the playoffs because he thought he knew better, and then throwing the entire organization under the bus (players, coach, front office - you name it) when they bowed out of the '95 playoffs.

If Draymond did that shyt today, I couldn't even imagine the reception/reaction he'd face. He'd become the most-hated man in the history of the sport.

And to that point, what do you think the perception of Rodman would be, if he existed this era, exactly as he were?
 

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agenda :dead:

if Dray doesn't throw a punch, will the story be Poole doing whatever you imagined he did?
Dray is wrong. punching is one threshold you don't cross
that's why he apologized not Poole. it's not complicated.
They were both wrong. He apologized because he escalated
 
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