Drake isnt hip hop - Yaasin Bey
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Powerful posting.Mos is still a pretentious ass, but powerful posting.
Gonna have to play BOBS later.
Yeah, fukk what YOUR fans want.
I remember folks were highly anticipating the next Mos album and then he dropped “The New Danger” and nikkas we’re falling all over themselves attempting to defend it before giving up.
You can feed your fans and not be formulaic, the two aren’t mutually exclusive. See albums by Outkast, Prince, Early Kanye, Jay-Z, Snoop, etc…..
Mos does his own thing, I’ll give him that, it’s just that his thing (musically) no longer resonates with most people and hasn’t for a very long time.
I get what he's saying but it's time for old heads to get over the fact that hip hop has evolved past boom bap. Pretty much all popular hip hop today it classified as "pop rap". But that doesn't mean it's it's not hip hop.
CashmereThoughts
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Yeah nikka.the artists creates consumers consume. Consumers don’t dictate anything to an artist. When you start creating shyt because that’s what consumers want, your compromised.Yeah, fukk what YOUR fans want.
I remember folks were highly anticipating the next Mos album and then he dropped “The New Danger” and nikkas we’re falling all over themselves attempting to defend it before giving up.
You can feed your fans and not be formulaic, the two aren’t mutually exclusive. See albums by Outkast, Prince, Early Kanye, Jay-Z, Snoop, etc…..
CashmereThoughts
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Yasiin’s Boom Bap era ended long ago. His second album was Rock sonically so I don’t think that’s a fair assessment.Yasiin really the example of a traditional Hip-Hop MC Pushing the boundaries outside of the boom bap stereotype.
I know it’s hard for people to compartmentalize popular rap vs Hip-Hop but Yasiin’s point about drakes work being driven by consumerism and not the culture is valid
Formerly Black Trash
Philosopher, Connoisseur, Future Legend
Ya gotta give Drake credit for being consistent. Its cool that he can give his fans an album/EP/Playlist every year and still put out singles. J. Cole and K. Dot don't put out as much music as Drake. However, Quantity vs Quality comes to play here. While Kendrick and J. Cole don't put out as much music Drake, but they can still go platinum if they did dropped new music. Drake would drop mid songs, people would still buy it and call it a W.Drake being more POPular is only seen as a W when we have to compare him to other others artists and we want to prove he is better than said artists. Otherwise being call “pop” won’t be accepted by Drake fans. But when we want to compare him to Jcole and Kendrick it’s “he sells more, charts more, blah blah blah blah”
DJ Paul's Arm
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Drake is Hip Pop.
Only for nikka nerds and suburban white girls that fight over Yeti Cups
Only for nikka nerds and suburban white girls that fight over Yeti Cups
itsyoung!!
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The irony is the people that have came for drake
Mos def, common, etc. WERE drake before drake was even a thing
This forum average poster age might not remember. But im an 80s baby. I graduated high school in 2005.
Mos def, common, talib kweli etc were considered the corny simp, women pandering artists
Mos Def aint no damn hip hop gate keeper. He was a corny simp rapper for majority of his life.
Pop hip hop is a thing tho there is pop rock, pop punk, pop country ect etc
Drake is pop hip hop
Mos def made rock songs does that mean he isn’t hip hop ?
Drake is pop hip hop
Mos def made rock songs does that mean he isn’t hip hop ?
He had the lyrics and flow to be the hands down GOATAt least Drake gives his fans what they want.
Wish Mos would have done that. Probably one of the biggest wastes of potential in hip hop.
He can hang lyrically with Biggie Nas etc but let that waste …
It’s a damn shame …
No coincidence that the eras post-boom bap, the QUALITY and REPLAYABILITY of songs and albums dropped like a rock. Fast Food rap is the only thing being pushed nowadays, and the reason why a lot of the fickle heads are moving onwards to other genres.
