Drake - Duppy Freestyle (Pusha T & Kanye West DISS)

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The drake haters are the most delusional people in the world.

Artist I don’t enjoy or like, you’ll never catch me in a thread about them trying to explain why they are whack, fake, or real.


But drake haters come through and make drake threads 5x’s as big as they should be when otherwise most topics would be half as long.

Kanye still has black fans willing to give him a try and chance and just said slavery was a choice and we know he has ghost writers.


But none of that matters if the music is good.

Drake haters, the 1st thing they have to say anytime anything dope lyrically drops from him is “he didn’t write it”

No kind of proof whatsoever.

:mjlol:


If the haters would stop fueling the fire drake would have probably feel off years ago. And his threads after page 6
 

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The drake haters are the most delusional people in the world.

Artist I don’t enjoy or like, you’ll never catch me in a thread about them trying to explain why they are whack, fake, or real.


But drake haters come through and make drake threads 5x’s as big as they should be when otherwise most topics would be half as long.

Kanye still has black fans willing to give him a try and chance and just said slavery was a choice and we know he has ghost writers.


But none of that matters if the music is good.

Drake haters, the 1st thing they have to say anytime anything dope lyrically drops from him is “he didn’t write it”

No kind of proof whatsoever.

:mjlol:


If the haters would stop fueling the fire drake would have probably feel off years ago. And his threads after page 6


It's like LeBron James getting labeled king and multiple MVP winner when he got locked up by Terry & Kidd and had Spurs leaving him open mid range.

Some sh!t you can't unsee...same with Drake. Guy came in the game talking real name no gimmicks, lol.
 

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Man I'm surprised Drake came back so quick, shyt was kind of hard too.

I dunno about giving him points for admitting he had ghost writers and then dissing Kanye for using ghostwriters when Kanyes been open about it his whole career and Drake tried to hide it though.

Keen to hear what Push has in response.
I’m done :dead:
 

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1.Drake's career and life is an eternal win. Push will never be beloved as an artist as drake is.

2.People didnt always know that and it's besides the point. Showing all this disdain for drake's collaborations while following kanye around is corny. Like drake said "if you feel like that,what do you really think of your boss"

3.Drake is respected,no one he's riffed with is remotely seeing him except hov
4.He's still a hypocrite
5.If pusha or anyone never cared for sales,they should have never signed deals
6.It's very lackluster. nikkas like Fabolous made a much greater impact and never had the luxury of being up under a super producer. Push has been under two geniuses twice,the results are lackluster.


7.He's going to get further punished lyrically

An eternal win? The truth is that Drake is a pop artist that wants to be respected as an emcee. The problem is that he's been exposed as not being an authentic emcee. Had he just embrace his true status, then he wouldn't catch the flack that he gets by true hip hop heads. Because there are plenty of rappers who do not write their own shyt, and fully admit it from the jump about it. And they are respected as be. However, Drake was the one that been fronting about him being lyrical and match up with anyone, and performance-wise he can hit up any wave that is out, the problem is to which Push made mention of it, is that while they "riding waves, he got his sandals on", meaning Drake and people like him be following trends while he's his own original, he's a rap-god. He can walk above those "waves". Also, made mention by Push which is very accurate in comparison, Drake is more Will Smith when he won that first Grammy, He got it due to his pop success whereas true emcees put in that work, like Jay-Z worked hard for years to get his due. And there's nothing wrong with being a pop artist, but if you pretending to be a true emcee and it's exposed that you are not. You cannot try to battle for clout, your pop fans and Drake stans would not care, but the REAL HIP HOP HEADS that you're seeking approval will never stand by it, because the first thing they'll question is whether you wrote it or not. Drake's respect as an EMCEE is forever tarnished. For those who love the hip hop culture, that's the biggest L to have. His disses may come and go due to the popularity of fans but their short attention spans. Take Meek Mill for example, he got clowned, but now his fanbase is bigger than ever due to other situation that he made it out from. People would let an old rap battle be bygones, but viewed as a fake emcee... that'll forever sting. Ask Vanilla Ice. Ask MC Hammer. Ask any former pop rap artist that fell off because the pop fans don't care anymore.

And the vast majority knows Kanye don't always write his own shyt. He admits to it. He gives credit for people like Rhymefest, or Kid Cudi, or even Pusha T for sharing responsibility. With Kanye, people aren't seeking for him for his lyricism, but for his music. So when Kanye collaborate, it isn't with the mindset that he's an elite emcee, but that he's a genius producer that happens to rap, but the music always be top priority. Drake on the other hand is a wave rider who have a team with him to work on his bars, or conduct reference tracks, or sell him their own songs and material. For those who are true to the fundamentals of hip hop, that isn't a cool look for anyone who claim to be one of the best emcees in the gang. So someone like Pusha T who grew up on those fundamentals, he frowns upon that. That's how the whole Cash Money beef began to begin with due to the Clipse refusal to accept Lil Wayne biting their steez and jacking Gillie the Kid's lyricism.That's been part of the culture. Even as far back with the beef between LL Cool J and MC Shan, beefing on who stealing who's beat. Rap used to be about pure skills and originality, and not it is not that anymore. Everyone want to rap mediocre and ride waves and Drake is one of the biggest wave rider out right now hopping on so many feature and imitating their style on those songs instead of having an original voice.

Drake is only mainly respected in the pop society. And that is ridiculous to believe no other rapper can't see him except Jay-Z. That's a lot of super-elite MCS that you are dismissing.

Also, you cannot be a hypocrite for tell the truth. Pusha didn't contradict or lie on Drake. If anything, Drake is the hypocrite by admitting he has/had help in writing as if there's nothing wrong with it, but turn around and cry that Kanye does it too. It has nothing to with Kanye, but Drake want to throw him under the bus, because Drake know never to question Pusha's pen, so he want to make a Straw Man argument.

That is a very week logic. So you are saying that every single artist, no matter what genre, are into the music business purely for record sales? Record sales are basically the LEAST profit an artist gets from any song or album they release. It's damn sure not for sales. Many of them once they reach that comfort of success are doing it for the love of their craft and want to share it for their fans. It's not for record sales. Rappers in particular make more doing TOURS. Getting signed for a deal in 2018, labels aren't going to depend on regular sales, but how their artists known and it is through a lot of touring, a lot of making connections, sponsorships, merch, and support and backing. All that neither here nor there, Pusha T is an executive who runs and oversees GOOD MUSIC. He's the one that sign deals now. Again, he is at a comfort level where he can wait like several years before dropping an album and not worry too much about sales because sales never been huge, but their legacy was bigger and more important. Groups like Gang Star except for only ONE TIME never had an album that at least went Gold, still one of the more respect, known, and greatest rap duo. Legacy is way more important.

Fabolous?? Fabolous is nice but his career was hardly EVER on some hard street shyt. His success was making himself marketable for woman. Nothing taking from him, but you are talking apples and oranges. The Clipse, Pusha T rap about the STREETS. That is the M-O. They dropped a classic and near classic album with the Neptunes. Pusha's current album is well praised by everyone. That's not lackluster no matter how you want to believe otherwise.
 

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I'd score this fake beef 1-0 For Drake, Pusha's diss was dope tho but I feel that we already heard all those claims against Drake

I believe Push will drop response either today or tommorow. He has to respond as early as possible or Drake is gonna "back to back him" and drop his 2nd diss and end the battle.
 

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In just a few hours, Drake’s diss song thread has surpassed the Pusha T album thread and has three times as many pages as the Pusha T diss song thread....Both of which had been started over 24 hours before Drake dropped his diss song.

Sensational....

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Okay a few things...

Pusha only dedicated like two lines to drake

Aubrey is the top artist in the game so anything he does is going to gain traction

Young Tony has always been Drake's main cowriter not QM

Drakes inner circle, executives at Republic Records, The brass at Universal Music Group and Apple Music plus and other media friends drake has all have a vested interest in him maintaining the top spot so if you diss drake you're not only battling him but the entire media not to mention his sycophantic fans

Pusha definitely has a uphill battle going at The Rap Game Kirby but i think he can pull it off
 
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1.An eternal win? The truth is that Drake is a pop artist that wants to be respected as an emcee2.. The problem is that he's been exposed as not being an authentic emcee. Had he just embrace his true status, then he wouldn't catch the flack that he gets by true hip hop heads. Because there are plenty of rappers who do not write their own shyt, and fully admit it from the jump about it. And they are respected as be. However, 3.Drake was the one that been fronting about him being lyrical and match up with anyone, and performance-wise he can hit up any wave that is out, the problem is to which Push made mention of it, is that while they "riding waves, he got his sandals on", meaning Drake and people like him be following trends while he's his own original4., he's a rap-god. He can walk above those "waves". Also, made mention by Push which is very accurate in comparison, Drake is more Will Smith when he won that first Grammy, He got it due to his pop success whereas true emcees put in that work, 5.like Jay-Z worked hard for years to get his due. And there's nothing wrong with being a pop artist, but if you pretending to be a true emcee and it's exposed that you are not. You cannot try to battle for clout, your pop fans and Drake stans would not care, but the REAL HIP HOP HEADS that you're seeking approval will never stand by it, because the first thing they'll question is whether you wrote it or not. Drake's respect as an EMCEE is forever tarnished6.. For those who love the hip hop culture, that's the biggest L to have. His disses may come and go due to the popularity of fans but their short attention spans. Take Meek Mill for example, he got clowned, but now his fanbase is bigger than ever due to other situation that he made it out from. People would let an old rap battle be bygones, but viewed as a fake emcee... that'll forever sting. 7.Ask Vanilla Ice. Ask MC 8.Hammer. Ask any former pop rap artist that fell off because the pop fans don't care anymore.

And the vast majority knows Kanye don't always write his own shyt. He admits to it. He gives credit for people like Rhymefest, or Kid Cudi, or even Pusha T for sharing responsibility.9. With Kanye, people aren't seeking for him for his lyricism, but for his music. So when Kanye collaborate, it isn't with the mindset that he's an elite emcee, but that he's a genius producer that happens to rap, but the music always be top priority. Drake on the other hand is a wave rider who have a team with him to work on his bars, or conduct reference tracks, or sell him their own songs and material. For those who are true to the fundamentals of hip hop, that isn't a cool look for anyone who claim to be one of the best emcees in the gang. 10So someone like Pusha T who grew up on those fundamentals, he frowns upon that. That's how the whole Cash Money beef began to begin with due to the Clipse refusal to accept Lil Wayne biting their steez and jacking Gillie the Kid's lyricism.That's been part of the culture. Even as far back with the beef between LL Cool J and MC Shan, beefing on who stealing who's beat. Rap used to be about pure skills and originality, and not it is not that anymore. Everyone want to rap mediocre and ride waves and Drake is one of the biggest wave rider out right now hopping on so many feature and imitating their style on those songs instead of having an original voice.

Drake is only mainly respected in the pop society. 11And that is ridiculous to believe no other rapper can't see him except Jay-Z. That's a lot of super-elite MCS that you are dismissing.

Also, you cannot be a hypocrite for tell the truth.12 Pusha didn't contradict or lie on Drake. If anything, Drake is the hypocrite by admitting he has/had help in writing as if there's nothing wrong with it, but turn around and cry that Kanye does it too. It has nothing to with Kanye, but Drake want to throw him under the bus, because Drake know never to question Pusha's pen, so he want to make a Straw Man argument.

That is a very week logic. So you are saying that every single artist, no matter what genre, are into the music business purely for record sales13? Record sales are basically the LEAST profit an artist gets from any song or album they release. It's damn sure not for sales. Many of them once they reach that comfort of success are doing it for the love of their craft and want to share it for their fans. It's not for record sales. Rappers in particular make more doing TOURS. Getting signed for a deal in 14 2018, labels aren't going to depend on regular sales, but how their artists known and it is through a lot of touring, a lot of making connections, sponsorships, merch, and support and backing. All that neither here nor there, Pusha T is an executive who runs and oversees GOOD MUSIC. He's the one that sign deals now. Again, he is at a comfort level where he can wait like several years before dropping an album and not worry too much about sales because sales never been huge, but their legacy was bigger and more important.15 Groups like Gang Star except for only ONE TIME never had an album that at least went Gold, still one of the more respect, known, and greatest rap duo. Legacy is way more important.

16Fabolous?? Fabolous is nice but his career was hardly EVER on some hard street shyt. His success was making himself marketable for woman. Nothing taking from him, but you are talking apples and oranges. The Clipse, Pusha T rap about the STREETS. That is the M-O. They dropped a classic and near classic album with the Neptunes. Pusha's current album is well praised by everyone. That's not lackluster no matter how you want to believe otherwise.
1.Yes an eternal win,Drake is a certified legend whom music is in the hearts and minds of most. He's created the soundtrack to young folks and old folks alike. Many people have atleast 1 or more drake songs that remind them of certain places or times over the past several years

2.Drake is heavily respected,damn near any mc would be happy to rhyme with him. only hater speak against him.


3.Drake is lyrical and very talented,he happened to collaborate with others and the hate train is coming but aint gon stop shyt


4.Original? He's just a run of the mil d-boy rapper. He's not a god. He's a peon. He's so wack that 20 years into his career he goes around following a nikka he's older than him,who just so happens to use writing services from the very man he's dissing.

5.Jay is greatness,So is drake. Pusha however,is nothing but a bum whom hangs around greatness for clout. Even if they participate in activities that he doesnt respect. He's a leech and a serpent.

6.Drake is doing just fine. Best artist to come out in the past 8-9 years. With the memorable songs to back up that claim

7.Last i heard vanilla ice was headlining the old school hiphop tour with salt n pepa (whom also had ghost writers)

8.nikka if you think Drake is in hammer or vanilla ice's shoes,you're even more delusional than i though. Hammer's only mistake was not having a firm street presence muiscally,prior to falling off.
Imagine hammer had all them hits,but also had some harder edged hits and countless features on hits with redman,ice cube,geto boys,nas,wu tang,tupac,biggie,snoop,epmd,das efx,too short,spice 1 etc etc. AND they were all great respected performances during his prime. That's the position drake is in

9.AS a fan and multiple record buyer of kanye,i definitely thought he wrote his own shyt. Especially after the campaign about HOW PEOPLE WOULDNT LET HIM RAP AND ONLY WANTED HIS BEATS ETC,i definitely thought he was a true mc
10.He frowns cause he's not getting a check. He smiles at kanye though

11.Dont misquote me. I said "none of the dudes he went at lyrically are on his level"

12.Yes he did. It's just like the Mob saying DEAL AND DIE but accepting money from soldiers they know sell dope on the low.

13.Never said anyone was PURELY in this for sales. I said dont tell me someone doesnt care about sales,when they keep signing major record contracts. Hell,this dude is an actual record exec,gtfoh
14.Pusha's been signing deals since 98' though

15.Yea but gangstarr was never in The clipse shoes at all.

16.nikka please. Clipse never dropped a classic project and only have one classic song in general. I dont care how fab marketed himself. All that i care is that he's had a great career for dolo,while clipse having been backed by super producers their entire career and still never reached fab's level. #trash
 
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