Drake Brought Receipts

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Bruh...

I’ve talked to actual fans of his. They do not give a fukk like that


Nobody cares about him being a battle rapper or no shyt like that. They like his lyrics but MOST don’t care if he writes his own lyrics or not.

Only these supposed “hardcore” hip hop heads give a fukk and honestly, they don’t even understand how deep ghostwriting is in hiphop.

And in fact, Drake isn’t a “True emcee”... you can’t be singing and a “True emcee”.

50 has wrote and had nikkas write for him but no one gave a fukk or batted an eye.

He said he’s written all of his shyt but honestly I doubt it. I read on genius he didn’t even have writing credits on most of GRODT. I’m sure he did most of the writing on the project but not all.

This shyt is common af but because it’s Drake, nikkas are OD’ing on it like you can’t be a great artist or emcee if you didn’t write every single lyric, bar, etc., and thats not reality
 

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Bruh...

I’ve talked to actual fans of his. They do not give a fukk like that


Nobody cares about him being a battle rapper or no shyt like that. They like his lyrics but MOST don’t care if he writes his own lyrics or not.

Only these supposed “hardcore” hip hop heads give a fukk and honestly, they don’t even understand how deep ghostwriting is in hiphop.

And in fact, Drake isn’t a “True emcee”... you can’t be singing and a “True emcee”.

50 has wrote and had nikkas write for him but no one gave a fukk or batted an eye.

He said he’s written all of his shyt but honestly I doubt it. I read on genius he didn’t even have writing credits on most of GRODT. I’m sure he did most of the writing on the project but not all.

This shyt is common af but because it’s Drake, nikkas are OD’ing on it like you can’t be a great artist or emcee if you didn’t write every single lyric, bar, etc., and thats not reality
The whole appeal of Drake is the fact that he came out and was considered "lyrical" yet had mainstream tendencies. He did not come in the game on some Nelly/Wiz Khalifa "he's only for girls", "he only makes party/chill" music. There was an expectation of legacy and Drake himself was/is aware of it and constantly referenced it in his verses.

Fans YOU talked to doesn't equal all Drake fans.

You can be a true emcee who sings.

50 Cent didn't come in saying he'd be the next Pac and never talked about being better than nikkas on the mic unlike Drake who had to compensate for his soft image by consistently telling nikkas they don't want it with him on wax. 50 was a street nikka who told his story and talked rich shyt when he came up. I never heard any stories of him being written for but it wouldn't surprise me.

nikkas keep saying it's "common" but never really have receipts, or it'll be be something shaky and very small compared to whole reference tracks leaking, entourage members being credits on 20 of 35 records between 2 albums (though we overlooked this), and artists from their own imprint saying they had writing camps set up for the star artist. I'm not a person who thinks Drake has written 0% of his own material but denying that lyricism was/is a part of the package that blew him up in disingenuous. Without (perceived) lyrical ability, he'd succeed but his gravity would not be the same.
 

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And wtf is you nikkas hangup with this “True emcee” shyt with Drake?

Nobody gives a fukk about Drake being a true emcee or not... nobody. None of his fans give a single fukk

I don’t even consider him a true emcee... mainly because that nikka been singing damn near half of his career. But denying his pen game is the dumbest shyt you nikkas do on here.

Especially with all the nikkas he’s actually wrote for. Murda said they made “Nice for what” while playing 2k and Drake basically wrote the song quick af and said he would finish the rest after they get through playing.

That shyt was a quick smash.

And half of these “legendary emcees” would be off the list because once you reach a level of success you’re taking shyt from everybody around you. People are giving you ideas and keeping you from burning out with all the shyt you are doing.

Those reference tracks were ideas for a project. QM was paid to help spark ideas... this shyt happens in most music creation processes.

Drake never claimed to be anything but an artist...

"In hip-hop," 40 explained, "you must write your own raps. If someone else were to write them for you, you'd have no credibility whatsoever, and you'd be out of the window immediately."

-drake’s producer
 

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The whole appeal of Drake is the fact that he came out and was considered "lyrical" yet had mainstream tendencies. He did not come in the game on some Nelly/Wiz Khalifa "he's only for girls", "he only makes party/chill" music. There was an expectation of legacy and Drake himself was/is aware of it and constantly referenced it in his verses.

Fans YOU talked to doesn't equal all Drake fans.

You can be a true emcee who sings.

50 Cent didn't come in saying he'd be the next Pac and never talked about being better than nikkas on the mic unlike Drake who had to compensate for his soft image by consistently telling nikkas they don't want it with him on wax. 50 was a street nikka who told his story and talked rich shyt when he came up. I never heard any stories of him being written for but it wouldn't surprise me.

nikkas keep saying it's "common" but never really have receipts, or it'll be be something shaky and very small compared to whole reference tracks leaking, entourage members being credits on 20 of 35 records between 2 albums (though we overlooked this), and artists from their own imprint saying they had writing camps set up for the star artist. I'm not a person who thinks Drake has written 0% of his own material but denying that lyricism was/is a part of the package that blew him up in disingenuous. Without (perceived) lyrical ability, he'd succeed but his gravity would not be the same.
Bruh we have receipts.. there are tons of receipts guy just google it:heh:

I’ve known this shyt for decades just because I been into producing music since I was young and have a shytload of friends who rap, produce, and write music.

A shytLOAD.

As an artist, copying other people’s shyt is an everday thing JUST GOOGLE IT. fukk you got nikkas on this very forum telling yall nikkas this shyt is common but Drake haters love ignoring shyt or trying to lie. You don’t even got to google half the time most credit the artists just like Drake did.

And bruh these nikkas do NOT care:dead:

And when did Drake ever come out like pac? And you believed that?

You’re literally countering most of what I’m saying with opinion so here

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hotnewhiphop.com/10-rappers-who-have-used-ghostwriters-news.16650.html?_amp

An article with actual quotes from artists in regards to people like Nas, Snoop, ODB, Ghostface, etc “collaborating” on songs with others.

Thats just one small article with actual receipts. You can literally find hundreds more... I’ve posted this type of shyt before

And lyrics were not the main drake package. He was making hot songs while being lyrical and he was also singing. Basically just making great music.

You nikkas continuously doubt this nikkas pen game over literally nothing. nikkas bounce ideas, borrow songs, borrow lyrics, borrow styles so shyt won’t get stale, etc., all the time.

Even Jayz has blatantly took his own nikkas style.

And no, if you’re a singer then youre not JUST an emcee... especially a “true” emcee like there are special rules now. He’s an ARTIST that happens to rap and sing very well, he’s an anomaly. No one has ever done this at his level and as advanced.

This entire ”needing” ghostwriters argument is dumb af... especially when not only has this nikka been proven to write his own shyt he’s also wrote other peoples shyt. Like full blown songs... thats fukking retarded.

And I used 50 as an example because he flat out said he beat Eminem in a freestyle (so he was supposedly lyrical), had a similar buzz Drake did, was just as popular as Drake was, and was also making songs with him “singing”. And yes, I’m almost certain he had a ghostwriter.
 
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"In hip-hop," 40 explained, "you must write your own raps. If someone else were to write them for you, you'd have no credibility whatsoever, and you'd be out of the window immediately."

-drake’s producer
I’m looking for your point because thats half of the rap game AS A WHOLE then.

I literally just posted a link to one of many articles that have stated the obvious... people use other people ls lyrics at times. You can check it if you like
 

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Bruh we have receipts.. there are tons of receipts guy just google it:heh:

I’ve known this shyt for decades just because I been into producing music since I was young and have a shytload of friends who rap, produce, and write music.

A shytLOAD.

As an artist, copying other people’s shyt is an everday thing JUST GOOGLE IT. fukk you got nikkas on this very forum telling yall nikkas this shyt is common but Drake haters love ignoring shyt or trying to lie. You don’t even got to google half the time most credit the artists just like Drake did.

And bruh these nikkas do NOT care:dead:

And when did Drake ever come out like pac? And you believed that?

You’re literally countering most of what I’m saying with opinion so here

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hotnewhiphop.com/10-rappers-who-have-used-ghostwriters-news.16650.html?_amp

An article with actual quotes from artists in regards to people like Nas, Snoop, ODB, Ghostface, etc “collaborating” on songs with others.

Thats just one small article with actual receipts. You can literally find hundreds more... I’ve posted this type of shyt before

And lyrics were not the main drake package. He was making hot songs while being lyrical and he was also singing. Basically just making great music.

You nikkas continuously doubt this nikkas pen game over literally nothing. nikkas bounce ideas, borrow songs, borrow lyrics, borrow styles so shyt won’t get stale, etc., all the time.

Even Jayz has blatantly took his own nikkas style.

And no, if you’re a singer then youre not JUST an emcee... especially a “true” emcee like there are special rules now. He’s an ARTIST that happens to rap and sing very well, he’s an anomaly. No one has ever done this at his level and as advanced.

This entire ”needing” ghostwriters argument is dumb af... especially when not only has this nikka been proven to write his own shyt he’s also wrote other peoples shyt. Like full blown songs... thats fukking retarded.

And I used 50 as an example because he flat out said he beat Eminem in a freestyle (so he was supposedly lyrical), had a similar buzz Drake did, was just as popular as Drake was, and was also making songs with him “singing”. And yes, I’m almost certain he had a ghostwriter.
Half that list you posted were producers or people who aren't in this topic of elite. Fat Joe while a longtime hitmaker isn't considered one of the GOATs, nor is Jim. Malice in Wonderland was like Snoop's 9th album. And then of course an all time great in Nas based on rumors from a reporter who got famous siding with Jay in the Nas-Jay beef.

I did not say Drake came out like Pac, I used Pac to compare to 50 both being of the "street" element. Drake swears he's the new Jay, who did not have writers. Yes Jay has bitten styles and "borrowed" from Biggie and it's one of the reasons why he could never be the GOAT to me.

You CAN be a true emcee and sing. Being JUST an emcee and being able to be TRUE emcee aren't mutually exclusive. Drake's entry to the game was rapping, he does not sing very well :skip: he's not a Chris Brown or Trey Songz nikka who raps sometimes. He's a "rapper" who if he actually could sing would probably sing full-time. But being a true emcee is not exclusive to not singing (ie, Andre 3000, Phonte).

I don't care who Drake wrote for...nikkas wrote for him. I personally think he's done about half of his own work but that's not enough.

You just said Drake made good music WHILE BEING LYRICAL so that proved my point. Without being "lyrical" Drake does not have this same level of sustained success/relevancy period. If he was just "the good music/women/club" rapper he'd be in different space.
 
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Bruh...

I’ve talked to actual fans of his. They do not give a fukk like that


Nobody cares about him being a battle rapper or no shyt like that. They like his lyrics but MOST don’t care if he writes his own lyrics or not.

Only these supposed “hardcore” hip hop heads give a fukk and honestly, they don’t even understand how deep ghostwriting is in hiphop.

And in fact, Drake isn’t a “True emcee”... you can’t be singing and a “True emcee”.

50 has wrote and had nikkas write for him but no one gave a fukk or batted an eye.

He said he’s written all of his shyt but honestly I doubt it. I read on genius he didn’t even have writing credits on most of GRODT. I’m sure he did most of the writing on the project but not all.

This shyt is common af but because it’s Drake, nikkas are OD’ing on it like you can’t be a great artist or emcee if you didn’t write every single lyric, bar, etc., and thats not reality

No one wrote for 50 the fukk you talking about? Don't compare a real emcee and street cat to reference track Drake :hhh:
 

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Half that list you posted were producers or people who aren't in this topic of elite. Fat Joe while a longtime hitmaker isn't considered one of the GOATs, nor is Jim. Malice in Wonderland was like Snoop's 9th album. And then of course an all time great in Nas based on rumors from a reporter who got famous siding with Jay in the Nas-Jay beef.

I did not say Drake came out like Pac, I used Pac to compare to 50 both being of the "street" element. Drake swears he's the new Jay, who did not have writers. Yes Jay has bitten styles and "borrowed" from Biggie and it's one of the reasons why he could never be the GOAT to me.

You CAN be a true emcee and sing. Being JUST an emcee and being able to be TRUE emcee aren't mutually exclusive. Drake's entry to the game was rapping, he does not sing very well :skip: he's not a Chris Brown or Trey Songz nikka who raps sometimes. He's a "rapper" who if he actually could sing would probably sing full-time. But being a true emcee is not exclusive to not singing (ie, Andre 3000, Phonte).

I don't care who Drake wrote for...nikkas wrote for him. I personally think he's done about half of his own work but that's not enough.

You just said Drake made good music WHILE BEING LYRICAL so that proved my point. Without being "lyrical" Drake does not have this same level of sustained success/relevancy period. If he was just "the good music/women/club" rapper he'd be in different space.
Bruh they weren’t half producers stop moving the goal post:heh:


Only people that were ACTUAL producers were Dre and Kanye and both of them have actual CLASSIC albums as the main rappers on that shyt. And they literally admit they were using ghostwriters by tagging the artist to the song SOMETIMES.

Snoop was a producer? ODB? Ghost? Nas? Etc. Diddy had the entire “Ill be missing you” song to Biggie written for him.

And this is just a SMALL list... do you really need to see more or are you just going to keep moving goalposts:heh:

I literally have to have this discussion with you nikkas everytime Drake battles a nikka and “ghostwriting” gets mentioned


Now Snoops “9th album” matters in the discussion :heh:. What was that like Drakes 5th album or some shyt that wasn’t even really an album? That shyt doesn’t matter to you nikkas so why which album snoop had writers on even matters? He was essentially doing the same shyt as Drake

Jay doesn’t write so he doesn’t need writers but hes bitten tons of shyt foh... He liked something and used it as a reference to complete a song aka the same shyt Drake and MANY others did.

Wtf is a True emcee... who :heh:. Is Nas not a true emcee because he “collaborated” with Jay electronica and Dead Prez for his songs? Is them nikkas in the Wu not “True” Emcees now... do you need more references?

Drake has always been on some RnB shyt and RnB nikkas use writers blatantly on the regular... a lot of the time it’s to actually help the other artist/writer get some money or some shine somewhat (Neyo, Keri Hilson, etc). So now Drake is exempt from that because he raps now? Drake has literally wrote full RnB songs for others but now it doesn’t matter that he does essentially what a lot of other people do in hiphop..

Who tf you think Drake probably got the idea from.. other nikkas that were doing it first. Other nikkas HE himself wrote for.

Drake is no fukking “True emcee” and never claimed to be so if not having a ghostwriter EVER makes you a true emcee then scratch half your favorites off the list. Thats your fault if you ever looked at Drake as a “true emcee”. Drake can spit, drake pen is nasty but that shyt is not his focus like a “true emcee”. And Andre JUST started trying to sing seriously in the tail end of his career and thats him trying to branch out more as an ARTIST and not just an emcee. Drake been on this shyt since day 1
 

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Bruh they weren’t half producers stop moving the goal post:heh:


Only people that were ACTUAL producers were Dre and Kanye and both of them have actual CLASSIC albums as the main rappers on that shyt. And they literally admit they were using ghostwriters by tagging the artist to the song SOMETIMES.

Snoop was a producer? ODB? Ghost? Nas? Etc. Diddy had the entire “Ill be missing you” song to Biggie written for him.

And this is just a SMALL list... do you really need to see more or are you just going to keep moving goalposts:heh:

I literally have to have this discussion with you nikkas everytime Drake battles a nikka and “ghostwriting” gets mentioned


Now Snoops “9th album” matters in the discussion :heh:. What was that like Drakes 5th album or some shyt that wasn’t even really an album? That shyt doesn’t matter to you nikkas so why which album snoop had writers on even matters? He was essentially doing the same shyt as Drake

Jay doesn’t write so he doesn’t need writers but hes bitten tons of shyt foh... He liked something and used it as a reference to complete a song aka the same shyt Drake and MANY others did.

Wtf is a True emcee... who :heh:. Is Nas not a true emcee because he “collaborated” with Jay electronica and Dead Prez for his songs? Is them nikkas in the Wu not “True” Emcees now... do you need more references?

Drake has always been on some RnB shyt and RnB nikkas use writers blatantly on the regular... a lot of the time it’s to actually help the other artist/writer get some money or some shine somewhat (Neyo, Keri Hilson, etc). So now Drake is exempt from that because he raps now? Drake has literally wrote full RnB songs for others but now it doesn’t matter that he does essentially what a lot of other people do in hiphop..

Who tf you think Drake probably got the ideas from..

Drake is no fukking “True emcee” and never claimed to be so if not having a ghostwriter EVER makes you a true emcee then scratch half your favorites off the list. Drake can spit, drake pen is nasty but that shyt is not his focus like a “true emcee”. And Andre JUST started trying to sing seriously in the tail end of his career and thats him trying to branch out more as an ARTIST and not just an emcee. Drake been on this shyt since day 1
Kanye, Dre, and Diddy are all producers. As you said ADMITTED THEY DONT WRITE.
Nas's accusation comes from a biased source with no proof.
Mase a rumor, also, but you're holding onto them because they paint Drake in a better light.
Ghost and ODB were part of a group so I can see them "sharing bars" though these came on solo albums.
Nobody says Jim is a great rapper and Joe is a hitmaker more than an elite emcee.
Yes Snoop's 9th album matters because he's given multiple albums of his own shyt. Drake has had writers on albums 2-5, a with rumors from SFG era, and apparently in his new song admits to still using them.

Drake writing for R&B artist doesn't erase nikkas writing for him as a rapper.

You're being disingenuous saying Drake never claimed to be a real emcee or care about that aspect of his career/appeal when plenty of his "going in" records see him touch on nikkas being scared of him lyrically, his legacy, being a great. So any bullshyt you have to type after this, you got it breh.
 

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No one wrote for 50 the fukk you talking about? Don't compare a real emcee and street cat to reference track Drake :hhh:
Ok...:mjlol:

Go to GRODT wiki page and when you see “writers” for all those extra tracks, tell me who all those other extra nikkas are aside from the producers and the nikkas that actually featured in the song:mjlol:


You literally got other random nikkas dropping their ideas and touches in damn near every song but because Drake didn’t do it single handedly EVERYTIME this is some big revelation:mjlol:
 

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Kanye, Dre, and Diddy are all producers. As you said ADMITTED THEY DONT WRITE.
Nas's accusation comes from a biased source with no proof.
Mase a rumor, also, but you're holding onto them because they paint Drake in a better light.
Ghost and ODB were part of a group so I can see them "sharing bars" though these came on solo albums.
Nobody says Jim is a great rapper and Joe is a hitmaker more than an elite emcee.
Yes Snoop's 9th album matters because he's given multiple albums of his own shyt. Drake has had writers on albums 2-5, a with rumors from SFG era, and apparently in his new song admits to still using them.

Drake writing for R&B artist doesn't erase nikkas writing for him as a rapper.

You're being disingenuous saying Drake never claimed to be a real emcee or care about that aspect of his career/appeal when plenty of his "going in" records see him touch on nikkas being scared of him lyrically, his legacy, being a great. So any bullshyt you have to type after this, you got it breh.
Thats not half:mjlol: and Diddy shouldn’t even be considered a fukking producer he doesn’t even do that shyt:mjlol:


And Dead Prez literally said he “collaborated” with nas, did you not read it. It came from his own FB page:gucci:.

He said the exact same shyt QM said. Jay didn’t even deny it he just said Nas doesn’t need a ghostwriter and he doesn’t NEED one.

Neither does Drake:gucci:


I didn’t even mention Mase but these “rumors” have been rumors for years. This is the first YOU heard about them but the only one I didn’t hear before was Nas but it’s not surprising. It’s not even ghostwriting, it’s nikkas helping with a project. This shyt happens why can’t you nikkas come to terms with it:mjlol:

Then you dismiss Nas and Mases “rumors” and come with your own rumors of Drake having entire nikkas creat 90% of his body of work:laff:


I’m done breh... it’s too late for this. Believe what you want you gonna do it anyway. I put shyt and quotes of nikkas dead in yall nikkas faces and yall just ignore it with more goalposts to move... this really is some crazy shyt... yall dislike this nikka that much. It’s like borderline delusional almost.
 
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