Essential Dragonball Super? New series set after Majin Buu saga

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Its basic logic. If Goku can't use it in a human body without destroying his stamina, what makes you think he ever would've figured out how to do it in his living body in the first place? It's not like USSJ or Frieza's 100% power where he's just pumping up his Ki more, it's a whole transformation that was only ever achieved by a dead guy with no Ki and a magical fusion. The only way the form is even conceivable is if you have no Ki or stamina to worry about. That's why Vegeta never bothered with it. He and Trunks had to learn how to reach that power naturally as Super Saiyan 2

You call it basic logic. I call it head cannon. :camby:
 

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Pretty interesting conversation about Super Saiyan 3. I personally think the form is just too flawed to ever rely on in a drawn out battle. Gotenks didn't have the stamina issue, but it only allowed him to stay merged for 5 mins. I don't know if Goku worked on the stamina issues in Super since we only saw it twice, but the fact that he choose to fight Black and Zamasu in Super Saiyan 2 tells me he doesn't even prefer to use the form. Goku did tell Piccolo it's a form that shouldn't be used outside of Otherworld.
 

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Its basic logic. If Goku can't use it in a human body without destroying his stamina, what makes you think he ever would've figured out how to do it in his living body in the first place? It's not like USSJ or Frieza's 100% power where he's just pumping up his Ki more, it's a whole transformation that was only ever achieved by a dead guy with no Ki and a magical fusion. The only way the form is even conceivable is if you have no Ki or stamina to worry about. That's why Vegeta never bothered with it. He and Trunks had to learn how to reach that power naturally as Super Saiyan 2

it's not basic logic. if gohan was the strongest saiyan alive, with the most potential in terms of pure power, basic logic says that if they all train at the same level, he remains the most powerful.

for all we know gohan's potential might have allowed him to achieve and maintain SSJ3 in a way even his father couldn't. we'll never know, because gohan's a fukking slacker. but to assume he couldn't achieve it because of what goku says (or how u interpret what goku says) makes no sense. gohan was naturally stronger than his father at a much younger age. he didn't have the same limitations as vegeta, goku and trunks, which is why he surpassed them in the first place. that's facts.
 

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crazy how we got future trunks and vegito in one arc

idk how the next arc is gonna top this unless it ends up being that universal tournament all-chan is hosting since the possibilities of so many new characters will be limitless

or maybe if we get another villain arc before then we can get that super saiyan white transformation tori was talking about:lupe:
the form he was talking about was zamasu
 

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This episode was just too much. And that scene with Vegeta and Trunks was an Instant Classic and will go down as Legendary. I'm going to call him Perfect Zamasu and he's beast. Trunks tired to come down on some Freeza cut him up sh!t but he caught that blade like Goku did. God Vegito on the Way which is fine (Gogeta is the best but for the series I understand God Vegito route). Brought me back to the Triple Kamehame Ha from Broly 2 and the Gohan/Spirit Goku Kamahama Ha. Next week about to be FIRE, can't wait. Also this episode officially puts "Dragon Ball Super" over "Dragon Ball GT's" 64 Episodes. Making it the third longest running Dragon Ball Series.


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God Vegito Kamehame Ha looks Iconic as sh!t.
 
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we know ssj3 isn't a wordly technique by the evidence below

Dragon Ball 475 - Read Dragon Ball 475 Online - Page 4

king kai states just by transforming it speeds up goku's time and his 24 hours on earth goes faster, so it burns his time and his chi at an accelerated rate

Dragon Ball 477 - Read Dragon Ball 477 Online - Page 9

here goku states this form should only be used in the afterlife I.E. dead. Meaning a living body can't sustain to conditions to achieve the form to transform into it

Dragon Ball 478 - Read Dragon Ball 478 Online - Page 1

here piccolo notes goku's fatigue and attributes it to ssj3


Dragon Ball 513 - Read Dragon Ball 513 Online - Page 10

Dragon Ball 514 - Read Dragon Ball 514 Online - Page 1

here goku notes that after his chi went away that sustaining ssj3 while alive is impossible since it speeds up his own time and burns through his chi reserves faster
 
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