Dr. Dre’s production during his Ruthless Records era >>>> Dr. Dre’s production during his Death Row Records era

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I want to yell at all of you right now :damn:


HIS “PRODUCTION STYLE” IS REINTERPOLATED SAMPLES PLAYED OUT BY WORLD CLASS SESSION PLAYERS WITH UNLIMITED TIME AND BUDGET INSIDE OF A TOP FLIGHT STUDIO that allows for him to engage in his pursuit of perfection. He is more of a music director with a great ear for audio

I wanna see Dr. Dre make an album with less than a $1000 budget, strictly getting back to the roots of the craft

The man used samples that George Clinton didn’t even have the rights to anymore, the least he could’ve done was collaborated with him more moving forward. At least sit in on a jam session and pick out the pieces of music you want to build around

But to just lift George Clinton and deliver it in higher fidelity to a generation that doesn’t know better is not exactly tha axiom of a great Hip-Hop producer
I'm a HUGE P-Funk fan. I've heard ALL of their shyt, every Parliament and Funkadelic album, all the P-Funk All-Stars stuff from the 80's and 90s, Bootsy's Rubber Band, GC's solo albums, even random spinoff shyt like Quasar. Had damn near all of their albums in the OG pressing (lowkey regret selling them :mjcry:)

I still rock with Dre and what he accomplished. You need quite the musical ear to turn the first few seconds of this:

into this
 

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I want to yell at all of you right now :damn:


HIS “PRODUCTION STYLE” IS REINTERPOLATED SAMPLES PLAYED OUT BY WORLD CLASS SESSION PLAYERS WITH UNLIMITED TIME AND BUDGET INSIDE OF A TOP FLIGHT STUDIO that allows for him to engage in his pursuit of perfection. He is more of a music director with a great ear for audio

I wanna see Dr. Dre make an album with less than a $1000 budget, strictly getting back to the roots of the craft

The man used samples that George Clinton didn’t even have the rights to anymore, the least he could’ve done was collaborated with him more moving forward. At least sit in on a jam session and pick out the pieces of music you want to build around

But to just lift George Clinton and deliver it in higher fidelity to a generation that doesn’t know better is not exactly tha axiom of a great Hip-Hop producer
:dahell::gucci:

Folks really LOVE running with narratives

The thread is about RUTHLESS ERA Dre.

He ain't have SHYT at the beginning of this era and really I've never heard of him having many co-produced tracks ( Yella or Cold187 has never claimed otherwise)

I get later on him using other producers and musicians makes people question or flat out claim things ( I still believe Dre is the one with the vision and secret sauce)

But 88-91 ain't the era for that at all ..
 

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Folks really LOVE running with narratives

The thread is about RUTHLESS ERA Dre.

He ain't have SHYT at the beginning of this era and really I've never heard of him having many co-produced tracks ( Yella or Cold187 has never claimed otherwise)

I get later on him using other producers and musicians makes people question or flat out claim things ( I still believe Dre is the one with the vision and secret sauce)

But 88-91 ain't the era for that at all ..
Breh this is the truth and Dre should’ve at least collaborated with George Clinton moving forward

If I were him I would’ve used my industry weight to return his publishing rights to him - if that didn’t work I’d buy them and return them myself


but it’s likely his grand kids would inevitably sell it back or the industry would be using songs like “she’s brickhouse” instead of “Atomic Dog” or “Flashlight”

I realize that’s above and beyond what most would do but he could’ve at least collaborated with him more moving forwars or sit in on some jam sessions and isolate the pieces of ORIGINAL music he’d like to work with


There sre examples of great sample flips bur we are mainly talking about reinterpolations played out by dedicated sessions musicians with an unlimited budget to pursue perfection with
 
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Lot of the beats on Chronic and Doggystyle were from Daz anyway, Dre just stole the credit

I have to call BS on this...why doesn't Daz's production sound like the Chronic on Dogg Found, or any other tracks he does? Dogg Food was still mixed by Dre and still sounds uniquely Daz.

I can tell a Dre beat vs. a Daz beat.

I do think that Daz had a hand in SOME of the Chronic...maybe some bare bones, skeleton beats, or offering samples to use, etc. but I do NOT think he was just giving Dre beats like that. Similar to how Martin Scorecese is the Director, but still has a cinematographer...

Doggystyle sounds more like Daz than anything on The Chronic and Daz himself says that Doggystyle was all Dre.

Songs like High Powered, Lyrical Gangbang, Chronic Intro, Deez Nutz sound nothing like Daz's more LBC sound. nikka Wit A Gun, Day the N took over, Stranded on Death Row, sound more like the 1991 N4L era beats, and still don't sound much like Daz.

bytches Ain't shyt kinda sounds like a Daz beat tho...:patrice:and that's really the only one to me that I can hear Daz's style on. But lmk if I'm overlooking something.

You can hear the groundwork for The Chronic on N4L in '91.
 
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I'd agree. The samples, how he chopped them, put em together, the overall mix and composition were Dre at his apex in many ways.

Later joints may have got more spins and acclaim but heads knew this was something special, back when, due to the crisp sounds that were miles ahead of anyone else. He just dropped classic after classic and was in his Pac zone back then before he could afford the luxury of overthinking and second guessing.

I wonder what caused that shift between the Eazy and Suge alignment as early Dre was hella productive in comparison to what came later which is strange if you think about it.

Dre wasn’t getting paid as much he was quite literally a starving artist.
 

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I'd agree. The samples, how he chopped them, put em together, the overall mix and composition were Dre at his apex in many ways.

Later joints may have got more spins and acclaim but heads knew this was something special, back when, due to the crisp sounds that were miles ahead of anyone else. He just dropped classic after classic and was in his Pac zone back then before he could afford the luxury of overthinking and second guessing.

I wonder what caused that shift between the Eazy and Suge alignment as early Dre was hella productive in comparison to what came later which is strange if you think about it.

I thought Yella implemented the samples.
 

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I have to call BS on this...why doesn't Daz's production sound like the Chronic on Dogg Found, or any other tracks he does? Dogg Food was still mixed by Dre and still sounds uniquely Daz.

I can tell a Dre beat vs. a Daz beat.

I do think that Daz had a hand in SOME of the Chronic...maybe some bare bones, skeleton beats, or offering samples to use, etc. but I do NOT think he was just giving Dre beats like that. Similar to how Martin Scorecese is the Director, but still has a cinematographer...

Doggystyle sounds more like Daz than anything on The Chronic and Daz himself says that Doggystyle was all Dre.

Songs like High Powered, Lyrical Gangbang, Chronic Intro, Deez Nutz sound nothing like Daz's more LBC sound. nikka Wit A Gun, Day the N took over, Stranded on Death Row, sound more like the 1991 N4L era beats, and still don't sound much like Daz.

bytches Ain't shyt kinda sounds like a Daz beat tho...:patrice:and that's really the only one to me that I can hear Daz's style on. But lmk if I'm overlooking something.

You can hear the groundwork for The Chronic on N4L in '91.
Yea I can usually tell the difference between a Daz beat and a Dre beat. Like this is a quintessential Daz beat to me

 

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I want to yell at all of you right now :damn:


HIS “PRODUCTION STYLE” IS REINTERPOLATED SAMPLES PLAYED OUT BY WORLD CLASS SESSION PLAYERS WITH UNLIMITED TIME AND BUDGET INSIDE OF A TOP FLIGHT STUDIO that allows for him to engage in his pursuit of perfection. He is more of a music director with a great ear for audio

I wanna see Dr. Dre make an album with less than a $1000 budget, strictly getting back to the roots of the craft

The man used samples that George Clinton didn’t even have the rights to anymore, the least he could’ve done was collaborated with him more moving forward. At least sit in on a jam session and pick out the pieces of music you want to build around

But to just lift George Clinton and deliver it in higher fidelity to a generation that doesn’t know better is not exactly tha axiom of a great Hip-Hop producer
This is why once I found some of the original songs he sampled or replayed and saw that he really didn't do nothing. I was very disappointed and he's been knocked out of the GOAT hip hop producer spot for me. I got RZA above him now and a whole group of underrated west coast producers like quik and even fred wreck over Dre. But his name is his name he still in the top 10 tho.
 

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This is why once I found some of the original songs he sampled or replayed and saw that he really didn't do nothing. I was very disappointed and he's been knocked out of the GOAT hip hop producer spot for me. I got RZA above him now and a whole group of underrated west coast producers like quik and even fred wreck over Dre. But his name is his name he still in the top 10 tho.
I get that take, but knowing that you can create a classic record based on not doing much also takes a lot of talent.
 
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I get that take, but knowing that you can create a classic record based on not doing much also takes a lot of talent.
Exactly...these 'easy' samples were sitting there fall all to find.

Daz or quick or fukking Fred Wreck woulda, coulda, shoulda, but didn't...
 
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