Double Talk Dave Gives 5.25 Stars To Walter/Tyler Bate And Young Bucks/Lucha Bros
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Champagne Kudo
Shyness Boy
Can't remember the last time I've seen an ishii match rated so low 
Tbh giving that Jericho/Page match 4 stars is more ridiculous than putting a completely no story dangerous stunt show starring his buddies on the same level as the Bate/Walter match. Jericho/Page was fukking garbage, if that had been a main event of a WWE PPV he would have savaged it like it was a Baron Corbin match.
TheAlbionist
All Star
At least the UK smarks keep it contextual, they weren't just going into business for themselves like the Full Sail crowd or the Raw-After-Wrestlemania crowd do... they were just live as fukk, especially during Walter/Bate. I don't really get the issue with them.
Kind of sad though that the UK commentary team, Vic Joseph especially, still haven't bothered to learn what's goes on in British crowds and get it across to the non-UK viewers. Dude actually apologised for the NXT UK Universe being "wacky" or something when they were singing "Don't Take Me Home" as if they were bored and going into business for themselves. There isn't a bigger compliment a UK crowd will give a show than singing that song. It's a song every England football fan knows (and can sing without losing concentration) and in a wrestling context it's just a more imaginative version of "Fight Forever".
They knew the end of the show was approaching and unlike during the ME of a 5hr WWE PPV where the crowd are just waiting for the disappointing finish so they can go to bed, they wanted to tell the wrestlers they still wanted more. Would people rather weary silence and a big sigh of relief when the pin finally came?
fukk a story honestly. I want great matches, like I love PWG and there's zero storylines, I hate and never watch Raw/Smackdown or WWE ppvs because the matches suck and the focus is on the "story". If I want a story I'd watch a movie or something and not grown ass men in tights acting like actual amateurs.
Yes Lucha bros and the Young Bucks dominated that one weekend.
Rarely does a great match not have some kind of story. Story doesn't have to mean working a body part and great selling or super deep psychology where X at Y minute into the match plays into the finishing stretch at minute Z. "Tells a story" in pro wrestling can be as simple as good guy vs bad guy, or just having ebbs and flows and back and forth momentum swings. I wouldn't say the ladder match had any of that. Both teams played tweener to neutral, there was no flow, it wasn't back and forth, it was just a string of huge (dangerously botched or nearly botched in most cases) bumps and the stuff inbetween the big spots was not even trying to hide that they're just setting up nonsense spots that made no sense in any context other than they're setting up spots.
That's really all ladder matches, especially post TLC 1/2. The Bucks/Luchas didn't establish or settle anything, nothing either team did shed light on their characters or personalities, there was no "this team is a better team than this other team" because it wasn't a skill based match but a whoever took the worst falls couldn't get up.
Crazy spotfests can be great, but they still need some kind of character work/story work to guide it and act as a frame for the spots. I don't believe the ladder match had that at all and was straight up just "here's a bunch of ladder bumps isn't this awesome".
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
Dave Workzer 
"If I want a story I'd watch a movie"
I'm on the exact opposite. If I wanted to watch guys in tights compete for honor in a world where wins and losses actually mattered I'd watch amateur wrestling.
nikka like meaningless stunt shows with no fukking story. Y'all gotta understand you are in the minority even in the context of the IWC and the general public thinks wrestling is fake moves until someone falling off a fukking building. Do nikkas really think an audience gonna be tuning in by the millions to watch mostly 5ft8 dudes who can't talk trade moves and no sell for 2 hours with no story? Y'all think this wins and fake losses shyt really what most of us is in this for?
I'm on the exact opposite. If I wanted to watch guys in tights compete for honor in a world where wins and losses actually mattered I'd watch amateur wrestling.
nikka like meaningless stunt shows with no fukking story. Y'all gotta understand you are in the minority even in the context of the IWC and the general public thinks wrestling is fake moves until someone falling off a fukking building. Do nikkas really think an audience gonna be tuning in by the millions to watch mostly 5ft8 dudes who can't talk trade moves and no sell for 2 hours with no story? Y'all think this wins and fake losses shyt really what most of us is in this for?
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bruh stop expecting stories out of a Young Bucks match, take it for what it is
its nonsense Fast and Furious 7, 8, 9 type of shyt
people watch them for the fukkery
That ladder match was pure unadulterated nonsense and i loved it
its nonsense Fast and Furious 7, 8, 9 type of shyt
people watch them for the fukkery
That ladder match was pure unadulterated nonsense and i loved it
Wasn't talking about the Bucks match or any match in particular...
Fast In The Furious even though it ain't for me has mass appeal, I'm saying I don't think this does.
this more like a movie that may be good but is made for a very particular film buff crowd.
The idea of preferring more wrestling over character and storylines is niche and from a hardcore fan's perspective.
Fast In The Furious even though it ain't for me has mass appeal, I'm saying I don't think this does.
this more like a movie that may be good but is made for a very particular film buff crowd.
The idea of preferring more wrestling over character and storylines is niche and from a hardcore fan's perspective.
MenacingMonk
Tranquilo
This. Let’s not act like dudes would rather bump Gucci Mane than Nas.
prophecypro
Hollywood North
Da Gawd still making them furious with his opinons