Dominicans Lynching Haitians in 2015

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Bro, I think you are missing the point. Most people are simply pointing out the racists views of many Dominicans in regards to other black people (mainly Haitians). Many (not all) Hatians have this "supremacist" ideology as if they are "better than other blacks" and a lot of Dominicans don't even consider themselves black/negro etc and they deny their African incestry. Masked from the lynching portion of the thread, this is a point I believe that many posters are trying to get (you) and others to acknowledge :manny:

there has been so many dominican threads on the coli that u can find me acknowledging race identity issues at least a half dozen times. my battle is with the generalization of all of us as some racist haitian head hunters who are all bleaching our skin and sucking up to the white man.
 

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If we can be rational for a moment, what else do you want @beanz to say? He has admitted to DR's issues and doesn't endorse the mistreatment of the Haitians.

honestly the fault lies with me. i need to learn to let it be and not let every post get me mad. im just super patriotic despite our faults and my love for my land is only 2nd to my love for my family.
 

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who are all bleaching our skin and sucking up to the white man.
Just came across this article written by a Latina @beanz :sas2:


http://www.latinorebels.com/2015/01/08/excluding-the-afro-from-enrique-iglesias-video-en-espanol/



Excluding the Afro from Enrique Iglesias’ Video en Español
three Latin Grammy awards in November, including Song of the Year. Its English version has proved to be a very successful crossover hit as well. Perhaps a little behind in my celebration of the song, I only recently made efforts to see the music video with some girlfriends. The English language version was the first to appear. We hit PLAY. A visually exciting and fun video, we sat fully impressed by the video’s stars bouncing soccer balls off of their bodies in rhythm to the beat. However, what caught our attention most was the presence of brown-skinned, presumably Latina dancers wearing their hair big, curly and in Afros right in the foreground of the video. My friends and I were so excited to see these girls that we literally clapped and cheered for their presence. These dancers seemed to represent an acknowledgement of Blackness among Latin@s, in the foreground rather than the background, and a rare celebration of kinky, curly and robust hair that illustrates African heritage.


I later searched on my own the Spanish language video, my preferred version of the song. When I saw it, my heart sank. The brown-skinned, curly, kinky, big-haired dancers had been excluded.


Whether intentional or not (though it is hard to imagine such an obvious creative decision not being intentional) the exclusion of the brown, curly, kinky, big-haired dancers fits all too well within the pervasive denial of Blackness visually, and in turn imaginatively, within Latin@ communities as reflected in our news media, film, advertising, television shows and music videos. It mirrors the exclusion of Blackness from images of beauty. It mirrors the kinds of racism that are embedded in those phrases we know all too well like “pelo malo,” (bad hair) and “hay que mejorar la raza” (one has to better the race, i.e. marry a person of lighter complexion). It is an exclusion that supports the continued adoration of whiteness at the expense of, and in rejection of, Blackness. Removing the Afro (literally) from the Spanish language video indicates that while there may be space for Blackness in the foreground of wider popular culture (the crossover English version) there is not within Latin@ popular culture (the Spanish language version).

Here are just a few reasons why the erasure of Blackness from the Latin@ visual field and psyche is an embarrassing example of collective self-hatred that should sadden and outrage us all. Scholars from various disciplines place the percentage of Dominicans with African ancestry at around 87%. Colombia and Venezuela compete with Haiti for the second largest population of Afro-descendants in the Western Hemisphere. Brazil has the largest. Skin tones from the lightest to the blackest brown can be witnessed all throughout Cuba, Puerto Rico (yes, Puerto Rico, go to the island), Atlantic coastal Central America, and down into Peru. There are even such a people called Afro-Mexicanos (google Costa Chica, Mexico). However, many would never imagine these countries or its people in this way. This kind ofblanqueamientomejorando la raza, and the erasure of Blackness in media.

As legacies of this history, Latin@s have learned to reject all that is Black (or African) in exchange for all that is White (or Spanish), and to celebrate an indigenous ancestry that both historic and scientific information maintains that many of us from the Spanish-speaking Caribbean cannot claim as easily as we might like to. White is singularly beautiful and on the occasion that Black is thought to be beautiful (for example, Dominican models Sessilee López and Arlenis Sosa) it’s not actually because it’s Black, it’s because it’s “Indian”… right (eye-roll), or has the principal features of White beauty: straight or long hair, and noses with high bridges.

Also in keeping with these legacies, Latina girls are taught from a very young age to banish any trace of curl or kink from their hair, coincidentally (or not), the only physical feature betraying Blackness that can easily be changed. And after a few hours in the salon, as if it were magic: “Hay mami, ¡qué LINDA!” Thank God for Dominican hair salons. Without them would these girls even think themselves beautiful? If we aren’t taught to hate our curly, kinky, not straight or smooth enough hair, we learn to not love it because we never see Latina girls like the ones in Iglesias’ English language “Bailando” video shown in depictions of Latinas on TV or in magazines directed towards the Latin@ community. Instead we see only the girls from the Spanish language version: fair-skinned and straight-haired. Women are not the only ones to feel this. Let us never forget that Dominican baseball hero Sammy Sosa transformed from amoreno into a blue-eyed, straight-haired, blanquito before our very eyes.

Undoing this legacy and its work on Latin@ minds and media requires that Latin@s begin to embrace this profound dimension to our cultural background that has not only shaped our food, music, and dance (which some are happy to celebrate) but also, for many, our appearance: African ancestry. We need to collectively value it for how it has positively formed our beauty and diversity both physical and cultural. Negritud and Latinidad are not opposites. They are a part of one another.

Shout out to all the musical artists (Hector Lavoe, Susana Baca, Big Pun, Tego Calderón to name a few) and political leaders (Albizu Campos, Betances and many others) of our past and present who have proudly upheld their African ancestry. Shout out to Renzo for having a Dominicana with naturally curly and Afro-ish hair portray his love interest in the video for “Mi Favorita.”


Let’s make that a trend. Let’s make teaching little girls to love their brown skin and hair a trend, and unmake “pelo malo” as the descriptor for course or kinky hair. Let’s rethink always combining the word “pretty” with the word “white,” (¡Hay qué linda! ¡Y blanquita!). Let’s challenge the inversion of Blackness to Whiteness, if not so we can uplift ourselves into being a broadly self-loving community then at least so we can stop being the butt of jokes about collective denial.
 

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there has been so many dominican threads on the coli that u can find me acknowledging race identity issues at least a half dozen times. my battle is with the generalization of all of us as some racist haitian head hunters who are all bleaching our skin and sucking up to the white man.
WHen it comes to generalizations thats just what the COli stands for, breh. You can only fight it so much. You almost learn to live with it :manny:
If you ask most coli members they'd tell you that Haitians are a bunch of ignorant mofos who sold their souls to the devil at the Bwa Kayiman voodoo ceremony in 1791 in order to save themselves from slavery . And now we are now trying to destroy the world by inventing AIDS and spreading it.
You know we got them high-tech state of the art bio labs in the hills of KensCoff with Nobel worthy biologists on deck cooking up aids viruses. :troll:

Anyway i think i made my point in the thread without necessarily bashing anyone.
 

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Just came across this article written by a Latina @beanz :sas2:


http://www.latinorebels.com/2015/01/08/excluding-the-afro-from-enrique-iglesias-video-en-espanol/



Excluding the Afro from Enrique Iglesias’ Video en Español
three Latin Grammy awards in November, including Song of the Year. Its English version has proved to be a very successful crossover hit as well. Perhaps a little behind in my celebration of the song, I only recently made efforts to see the music video with some girlfriends. The English language version was the first to appear. We hit PLAY. A visually exciting and fun video, we sat fully impressed by the video’s stars bouncing soccer balls off of their bodies in rhythm to the beat. However, what caught our attention most was the presence of brown-skinned, presumably Latina dancers wearing their hair big, curly and in Afros right in the foreground of the video. My friends and I were so excited to see these girls that we literally clapped and cheered for their presence. These dancers seemed to represent an acknowledgement of Blackness among Latin@s, in the foreground rather than the background, and a rare celebration of kinky, curly and robust hair that illustrates African heritage.


I later searched on my own the Spanish language video, my preferred version of the song. When I saw it, my heart sank. The brown-skinned, curly, kinky, big-haired dancers had been excluded.


Whether intentional or not (though it is hard to imagine such an obvious creative decision not being intentional) the exclusion of the brown, curly, kinky, big-haired dancers fits all too well within the pervasive denial of Blackness visually, and in turn imaginatively, within Latin@ communities as reflected in our news media, film, advertising, television shows and music videos. It mirrors the exclusion of Blackness from images of beauty. It mirrors the kinds of racism that are embedded in those phrases we know all too well like “pelo malo,” (bad hair) and “hay que mejorar la raza” (one has to better the race, i.e. marry a person of lighter complexion). It is an exclusion that supports the continued adoration of whiteness at the expense of, and in rejection of, Blackness. Removing the Afro (literally) from the Spanish language video indicates that while there may be space for Blackness in the foreground of wider popular culture (the crossover English version) there is not within Latin@ popular culture (the Spanish language version).

Here are just a few reasons why the erasure of Blackness from the Latin@ visual field and psyche is an embarrassing example of collective self-hatred that should sadden and outrage us all. Scholars from various disciplines place the percentage of Dominicans with African ancestry at around 87%. Colombia and Venezuela compete with Haiti for the second largest population of Afro-descendants in the Western Hemisphere. Brazil has the largest. Skin tones from the lightest to the blackest brown can be witnessed all throughout Cuba, Puerto Rico (yes, Puerto Rico, go to the island), Atlantic coastal Central America, and down into Peru. There are even such a people called Afro-Mexicanos (google Costa Chica, Mexico). However, many would never imagine these countries or its people in this way. This kind ofblanqueamientomejorando la raza, and the erasure of Blackness in media.

As legacies of this history, Latin@s have learned to reject all that is Black (or African) in exchange for all that is White (or Spanish), and to celebrate an indigenous ancestry that both historic and scientific information maintains that many of us from the Spanish-speaking Caribbean cannot claim as easily as we might like to. White is singularly beautiful and on the occasion that Black is thought to be beautiful (for example, Dominican models Sessilee López and Arlenis Sosa) it’s not actually because it’s Black, it’s because it’s “Indian”… right (eye-roll), or has the principal features of White beauty: straight or long hair, and noses with high bridges.

Also in keeping with these legacies, Latina girls are taught from a very young age to banish any trace of curl or kink from their hair, coincidentally (or not), the only physical feature betraying Blackness that can easily be changed. And after a few hours in the salon, as if it were magic: “Hay mami, ¡qué LINDA!” Thank God for Dominican hair salons. Without them would these girls even think themselves beautiful? If we aren’t taught to hate our curly, kinky, not straight or smooth enough hair, we learn to not love it because we never see Latina girls like the ones in Iglesias’ English language “Bailando” video shown in depictions of Latinas on TV or in magazines directed towards the Latin@ community. Instead we see only the girls from the Spanish language version: fair-skinned and straight-haired. Women are not the only ones to feel this. Let us never forget that Dominican baseball hero Sammy Sosa transformed from amoreno into a blue-eyed, straight-haired, blanquito before our very eyes.

Undoing this legacy and its work on Latin@ minds and media requires that Latin@s begin to embrace this profound dimension to our cultural background that has not only shaped our food, music, and dance (which some are happy to celebrate) but also, for many, our appearance: African ancestry. We need to collectively value it for how it has positively formed our beauty and diversity both physical and cultural. Negritud and Latinidad are not opposites. They are a part of one another.

Shout out to all the musical artists (Hector Lavoe, Susana Baca, Big Pun, Tego Calderón to name a few) and political leaders (Albizu Campos, Betances and many others) of our past and present who have proudly upheld their African ancestry. Shout out to Renzo for having a Dominicana with naturally curly and Afro-ish hair portray his love interest in the video for “Mi Favorita.”


Let’s make that a trend. Let’s make teaching little girls to love their brown skin and hair a trend, and unmake “pelo malo” as the descriptor for course or kinky hair. Let’s rethink always combining the word “pretty” with the word “white,” (¡Hay qué linda! ¡Y blanquita!). Let’s challenge the inversion of Blackness to Whiteness, if not so we can uplift ourselves into being a broadly self-loving community then at least so we can stop being the butt of jokes about collective denial.

yea this isnt news. just like hollywood and the music industry here. every video chick i ever saw in a rap video was a light skinned chick with straight hair. the only time i saw dark skinned chicks was mostly on BET uncut. every country that has ever had slavery sees this happen when its ruled in every industry mostly by whites and jews. latin america is no different.
 
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Thousands Protest Against Dominican Treatment of Haitian Countrymen



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A protester uses his teeth to rip apart a Dominican national flag, during an anti-Dominican Republic protest in Port-au-Prince, Haiti, Wednesday, Feb. 25, 2015. Protesters outraged over a Feb. 11 lynching of young man of Haitian descent in the Dominican city of Santiago are demanding that the neighboring country respect the human rights of Haitians. (AP Photo/Dieu Nalio Chery)PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti (AP) — About 10,000 people marched in Haiti’s capital Wednesday to protest what they say is chronic mistreatment of their countrymen in the neighboring Dominican Republic, where many Haitians have long lived in the shadows.


The demonstration was mostly peaceful, with young and old protesters waving Haitian flags and demanding that Dominicans respect the human rights of Haitians. It was organized by an association of lawyers and civil society groups.


When the crowd got to the Dominican consulate, one man managed to climb up on the roof and rip down a Dominican flag. The flag was doused with fuel and burned by the cheering crowd. Some protesters briefly chased a woman they believed to be Dominican.
There were no reports of arrests by the Haitian National Police. Some of the officers monitoring the protest also held Haitian flags.


The march came about two weeks after a shoe shiner of Haitian descent was found hanging from a tree in a square in the Dominican city of Santiago. Haitians believe Henry Claude Jean was the victim of racist violence, but Dominican investigators say it appeared he was killed by other Haitians.
No one knows exactly how many Haitian migrants live in the Dominican Republic, but the United Nations has estimated there may be as many as 500,000. The two countries share the Caribbean island of Hispaniola and a porous border.


Comparatively much wealthier than its neighbor, the Dominican Republic has long been a magnet for low-wage workers from Haiti but it has been seeking to limit unregulated, cross-border traffic in recent years.
In 2013, the Dominican Supreme Court ruled that people born in the country to non-citizens were not automatically entitled to citizenship. It was a retroactive ruling that went back to 1929 and left many people who had thought of themselves as Dominican in legal limbo.


Amid international pressure, the Dominican government decided that people affected by the ruling could apply for citizenship after they obtained birth certificates by a Feb. 1 deadline.


http://haitiantimes.com/thousands-pr...medium=twitter
 

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Haitian Workers Say They Were Shot for Asking to Be Paid February
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Tula Connell One of the five Haitian workers shot at a Dominican Republic construction site shows his wounds. Five Haitian construction workers in the Dominican Republic were shot allegedly for asking for unpaid wages, according to press reports. In addition, an eyewitness told Solidarity Center staff in Santo Domingo, the capital, that on February 2, a sergeant of the National Army fired upon and wounded the five workers, who were not taken to a hospital until a delegation from the Haitian Embassy arrived. The witness, who provided photos of the incident and spoke with Solidarity Center staff on February 10, claimed he spoke with one of the soldiers involved, and the soldier said he was paid by the construction engineer to prevent the workers from entering the construction site and to fire on the workers. The workers had been working on the construction site of the hospital Dario Contreras. A September 2013 court ruling targeted migrants in the Dominican Republic, revoking the citizenship of individuals born in the country since 1929 who could not prove their parents’ regular migration status. On February 2, the deadline expired for Dominicans born to undocumented parents to apply for migrant permits, leaving thousands stateless. The process for documentation was rife with irregularities, making it difficult for anyone to receive official status. -
 

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there has been so many dominican threads on the coli that u can find me acknowledging race identity issues at least a half dozen times. my battle is with the generalization of all of us as some racist haitian head hunters who are all bleaching our skin and sucking up to the white man.
there is systematic oppression, discrimination and abuse of haitian migrants in the dominican republic and it is getting worse. it's not just isolated incidents committed by a couple of misguided ignorants, all three branches of the government are involved in this, a large part of the dominican society condones the abuse and partakes in the discrimination and the political and economic elite are using haitian migration to distract the population from other issues. what is happening is wrong, and the dominican republic as a whole is responsible for what is going on. you argue and deflect just like a white person when it comes to what's going on in the dr. there are no ifs and buts, what's happening is wrong and needs to change, period.

oh, and by the way, stalk and neg me for what i said in here in unrelated threads dominic00ns :umad:
 

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there is systematic oppression, discrimination and abuse of haitian migrants in the dominican republic and it is getting worse. it's not just isolated incidents committed by a couple of misguided ignorants, all three branches of the government are involved in this, a large part of the dominican society condones the abuse and partakes in the discrimination and the political and economic elite are using haitian migration to distract the population from other issues. what is happening is wrong, and the dominican republic as a whole is responsible for what is going on. you argue and deflect just like a white person when it comes to what's going on in the dr. there are no ifs and buts, what's happening is wrong and needs to change, period.

oh, and by the way, stalk and neg me for what i said in here in unrelated threads dominic00ns :umad:

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