Do you think in words?

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

But your senses are skewed by your language.

Check the video above and many other studies.

My senses are actually skewed by synesthesia. What I 'think' about isn't represented by pictures or words, but moreso by 'feel'. The language only comes into play when trying to describe what I think to someone else.

The test the tribesmen were given is how my condition was/is detected. We're actually all born with it as it is just excessive neural connections that 'link' the senses. These connections deteriorate over-time for most people.​

 

[Type Username Here]

So much potential in this thread and you motherfukkers let it fail.

 

[acri1]

I don't think that humans can think on the level we're accustomed to without some sort of language.

That's why being born deaf is worse than being born blind. Kids who are born blind still learn how to talk and communicate, usually without difficulty, and tend to lead otherwise normal lives. Those who are born deaf, unless someone realizes very early that the child is deaf, may never really have a good grasp of communicating with other people beyond the very basics.

Once upon a time (not that long ago), people that were born deaf were called "deaf-mutes" and were basically considered "retarded" because they never picked up a language and coudn't really develop intellectually. Today, if diagnosed early enough, prelingually deaf people are usually taught sign language (though ANY child can learn sign language easily) and it helps them a lot. There's evidence that deaf people actually "think" in sign language, as they've been observed making signs in their sleep.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

lol easy now TUH

so just speaking on the brain/color/language connection.....

It kind of touches on one of the things I always wondered about w.r.t blind/deaf ppl. From what I was taught, ppl born deaf have a speech impediment. So I think this goes hand in hand with that.

The other thing I always wondered too, was when blind ppl could "make out the world" even though they never experienced it.

be back when I finish the vid.....

 

[Type Username Here]

I don't think that humans can think on the level we're accustomed to without some sort of language.

That's why being born deaf is worse than being born blind. Kids who are born blind still learn how to talk and communicate, usually without difficulty, and tend to lead otherwise normal lives. Those who are born deaf, unless someone realizes very early that the child is deaf, may never really have a good grasp of communicating with other people beyond the very basics.

Once upon a time (not that long ago), people that were born deaf were called "deaf-mutes" and were basically considered "retarded" because they never picked up a language and coudn't really develop intellectually. Today, if diagnosed early enough, prelingually deaf people are usually taught sign language (though ANY child can learn sign language easily) and it helps them a lot. There's evidence that deaf people actually "think" in sign language, as they've been observed making signs in their sleep.

This is the type of shyt I am talking about. Good shyt.

Do you have any sources ?

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

When you are thinking, do you do it in words, in a certain language? Do you see the actual words flash in your mind?





Think about it before you answer. I got some good counterarguments either way.

no. i don't think i've ever done that

 

[Type Username Here]

lol easy now TUH

I'm trying to talk about ideas on this forum. We discuss people and events way too often, even I am guilty of that. Let's talk about ideas. Ideas that may not really have a concrete answer but gets our mind rolling.

 

[Type Username Here]

no. i don't think i've ever done that

So, if someone says the number "2,032" out loud, you actually conceptualize that? Or do you imagine a symbol that represents it?

If you imagine the symbol, then is is essentially flashing in your mind.

Words= symbols.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

wow.

after watching the second part of the video I'm amazed

because they only have a couple of words that distinguish color, they consider
- water = white
- milk = white
- the sky = black

but they can tell the difference between different hues of one color

but they can't pick out a blue square amongst a sea of green squares....thats fukkn what!?

Doesn't this fly in the face of the color spectrum??? I was just told that the reason we all agree blue is blue and red is red, is because of the spectrum. Now according to this study, the reason we agree blue is blue and red is red is because we have been trained from birth to make a distinction between the two?

 

[88m3]

No one else thinks in colours?

 

[Mr. Somebody]

I think in images, sounds and channeled emotions only.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

No one else thinks in colours?

depends on the reason

but if I'm thinking in colors its usually associated with sound too

all them years playing in the band payed off come math time

 

[Type Username Here]

I think in images, sounds and channeled emotions only.

What do you mean by sounds? You actually hear the thing, like an inner voice? Is it actually sound?

I'm not saying you are wrong, just want clarification.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

What do you mean by sounds? You actually hear the thing, like an inner voice? Is it actually sound?

I'm not saying you are wrong, just want clarification.

I cant articulate the sound but it ties into how im feeling and also ties into when i need to channel someone elses emotions to feel, what they feel.

 

[DANKTHRONE]

When I say words and just flashing of words, I don't just mean the actual visual symbol in most cases, but it applies to symbols, "inner voice", etc.

Three examples:

1) When I say the word "three", I know you don't see the "word three" but you probably visualize the numerical symbol "3". The symbol for "3" and the the word "three" are BOTH symbols. Sure, three might be easier to visualize with 3 sticks or 3 balls, but what about the number 2,214,156? How do you visualize that without using words or symbols?

2) If you never had a concept of a language, would you still be a thinking being? Does thinking require a language?

3) What about limitations of perception when it comes to limitation of language? How come some people can only feel a certain way when there is a word in their language to describe that event?

Watch this video here about an African tribe and Westerns describing colors, and how their languages skew their perception:

BBC Horizon: Do you see what I see? "The Himba tribe" - YouTube


BBC Horizon: Do you see what I see? "The Himba tribe" - YouTube

This is something I think about all the time. Languages without writing systems have less words than languages that do have a writing system. Lots of languages don't have words for numbers greater than two or ten; bigger integers are just lumped together in a word meaning "many" or something like that. I bet tho that those people would be able to do addition with numbers that they have no words for. I should check the mathematical anthropology literature.