Do You Need Home Town Acceptance/Support In Order To Be Successful In HipHop?

[KeysT]

Means nothing. Most people are sheep, the same people clowning your wack mixtape today will be telling everybody they knew you when you blow up.

Look at Wale...nobody in DC fukks with him. Famous.
Look at J.Cole....from nowheresville, North Carolina. Went to NYC. Famous.
Look at Drake....from fukkin Canada. Drake said no one fukked with him and Toronto is known for being the "city of the screwface". Famous.
Look at ASAP....from Harlem but, raps like a Houston nikka. Harlem people called him out for that and for living in Jersey. Don't matter. He got famous.

Make good music. Get a following on the internet. Again, most people are sheep. Same people clowning you will be on your dikk 5 years later.

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[RTF]

Means nothing. Most people are sheep, the same people clowning your wack mixtape today will be telling everybody they knew you when you blow up.

Look at Wale...nobody in DC fukks with him. Famous.
Look at J.Cole....from nowheresville, North Carolina. Went to NYC. Famous.
Look at Drake....from fukkin Canada. Drake said no one fukked with him and Toronto is known for being the "city of the screwface". Famous.
Look at ASAP....from Harlem but, raps like a Houston nikka. Harlem people called him out for that and for living in Jersey. Don't matter. He got famous.

Make good music. Get a following on the internet. Again, most people are sheep. Same people clowning you will be on your dikk 5 years later.

All of those dudes are industry artists. By that I mean, they are only known because they got signed to a major label/major co-sign.

A lot of artists need help to get to that stage of getting (co) signed. That's when you need your city. Your city will give you that twitter following, those Youtube views. THEN - the bloggers start paying attention.

 

[Malik]

All of those dudes are industry artists. By that I mean, they are only known because they got signed to a major label/major co-sign.

A lot of artists need help to get to that stage of getting (co) signed. That's when you need your city. Your city will give you that twitter following, those Youtube views. THEN - the bloggers start paying attention.

Nope. You think it works like that but, its actually the opposite. When you get the Youtube views, the Twitter following and the Internet cosign, then that's when you become validated and the people in your hometown get on your dikk.

Drake drops "Room For Improvement" and the Replacement Girl video. At this point in and around Toronto, he's still the nobody lame from Degrassi. People don't believe in him. These are his words by the way. Drake drops "Comeback Season".....now the internet is starting to pay attention. all the hype blogs/forums/backpackers start feeling him and telling people in their cities about the boy from Degrassi..........Now.........people in Toronto looking at him because he starting to get that validation on a larger scale. Then Drake drops "So Far Gone" and its over with. Everybody's on his dikk. People in his town that weren't showing him love in 2007 all in his face now because the entire world is feeling him.

 

[NotaPAWG]

All of those dudes are industry artists. By that I mean, they are only known because they got signed to a major label/major co-sign.

A lot of artists need help to get to that stage of getting (co) signed. That's when you need your city. Your city will give you that twitter following, those Youtube views. THEN - the bloggers start paying attention.

A lot of Rockys fanbase or buzz came from when he released Purple Swag and Peso..he wasn't signed at that time..

A lot of artists getting on and buzz are doing it through the internet now vs just trying to get their city behind them first because it's made up of a larger demographic of people from ALL over. you can grind in your city/state working to get that fanbase and releasing a few mixtapes playing a local nightclub once or twice a month but for the most part, your name and most of your fanbase is staying within your region unless a significant amount of outsiders or some note worthy person happens to find a song and youtube video of yours and start throwing your name around. where using the internet now all you need to do is put up that one or two songs that are dope enough with catchy hooks complimented by a cool looking video and if it enough people are feeling it and you, its getting passed around, talked about and tweeted about by people outside your region. from cali, to ny, to europe...its reaching a way bigger audience and youre getting a buzz and your name out there faster than the fanbase within your city is

Like @Malik said..now, its not until after you get validated or accepted outside your hometown or homestate when they hop on your dikk and act like they been supporting you and rockin with you forever.

 

[Malik]

I'm guilty of that sh*t too, b.


I'm from the Philly area. Pittsburgh is 4 hours away....not local but, close enough. When I heard Wiz Khalifa back in 2006, I was real on dude. I saw the "Youngin on His Grind" video and the "Say Yeah" video and I promptly clicked "X". I wasn't with the movement. Then a few years go by. Half the internet is screaming about this "Kush & OJ" stuff. All of sudden, I'm interested now. The mixtape is flames Wiz becomes a star. He wasn't anymore nicer then he had been in 2006. People (me included) just weren't paying attention to him yet because he didn't have that official stamp.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

Na, this is the Internet era. You can get 0 home town love put in 0 ground work in your city and still blow up.

 

[Street Knowledge]

All you need is the Internet

 

[Jhoon]

All you need is the Internet

is that a bad thing? if you can survive the coli forum, you are 3/4s of the way to stardom. the internet is far rougher than the streets.

 

[bl2k8]

Nah look at Lil B wack ass, nobody in the bay bumpin his non pack shyt

 

[RTF]

A lot of Rockys fanbase or buzz came from when he released Purple Swag and Peso..he wasn't signed at that time..

A lot of artists getting on and buzz are doing it through the internet now vs just trying to get their city behind them first because it's made up of a larger demographic of people from ALL over. you can grind in your city/state working to get that fanbase and releasing a few mixtapes playing a local nightclub once or twice a month but for the most part, your name and most of your fanbase is staying within your region unless a significant amount of outsiders or some note worthy person happens to find a song and youtube video of yours and start throwing your name around. where using the internet now all you need to do is put up that one or two songs that are dope enough with catchy hooks complimented by a cool looking video and if it enough people are feeling it and you, its getting passed around, talked about and tweeted about by people outside your region. from cali, to ny, to europe...its reaching a way bigger audience and youre getting a buzz and your name out there faster than the fanbase within your city is

Like @Malik said..now, its not until after you get validated or accepted outside your hometown or homestate when they hop on your dikk and act like they been supporting you and rockin with you forever.

Breh, he was signed before that. I'm certain of that.

People don't really understand the business of music. Getting a powerful manager will do wonders for your career whether people care about you or not. Someone like Bodega Bamz is not signed to a major label but he's with the same management as ASAP Rocky, Ferg and a bunch of other signed artists. He has some money behind him and he can get a song on radio.

Back to this internet thing. You are FULLY independent. If the nikkas down the street won't listen to your shyt. Who will? Who is clicking that first link? Who is going to create that initial internet buzz? The city. They'll give you those first 10k views on YouTube. Then bigger channels will want to hear freestyles, exclusive songs. Sites and blogs will start to feature your shyt. Then you'll get proper management. Start doing 100k on those videos. Then some fukk boy will say the internet blew him up.

If a rapper is blown up by the internet. He is signed. End of.

J. Cole is the clearest example. He put out a tape and nobody cared. New York didn't care, The Ville didn't care. Signs to Roc Nation, gets that little push, his music is on all the blogs etc. next thing the internet has blown him up. These other artists follow the same route except they don't announce they they are signed but get their music pushed through all the big content houses (RR, Complex, 2DB etc.).

 

[RTF]

I'm guilty of that sh*t too, b.


I'm from the Philly area. Pittsburgh is 4 hours away....not local but, close enough. When I heard Wiz Khalifa back in 2006, I was real on dude. I saw the "Youngin on His Grind" video and the "Say Yeah" video and I promptly clicked "X". I wasn't with the movement. Then a few years go by. Half the internet is screaming about this "Kush & OJ" stuff. All of sudden, I'm interested now. The mixtape is flames Wiz becomes a star. He wasn't anymore nicer then he had been in 2006. People (me included) just weren't paying attention to him yet because he didn't have that official stamp.

Check this:

Wiz was signed when Say Yeah dropped. That's why you checked it out. So even from there he's benefited from that stamp. He gets dropped and gets his team straight in the mean time. Drops mad mixtapes and fully independent albums and builds a decent following. This is all off the back of being signed originally. He then signs to Atlantic but doesn't announce it, he drops Kush & OJ and Atlantic promote it, he's on MTV and all that. Then he announces he's signed to Atlantic.

**the internet blew him up**

Nah nikka. He dropped that one independent album about 7 months before Kush & OJ. That shyt did 3k first week. Where was the internet then?

 

[Malik]

Check this:

Wiz was signed when Say Yeah dropped. That's why you checked it out. So even from there he's benefited from that stamp. He gets dropped and gets his team straight in the mean time. Drops mad mixtapes and fully independent albums and builds a decent following. This is all off the back of being signed originally. He then signs to Atlantic but doesn't announce it, he drops Kush & OJ and Atlantic promote it, he's on MTV and all that. Then he announces he's signed to Atlantic.

**the internet blew him up**

Nah nikka. He dropped that one independent album about 7 months before Kush & OJ. That shyt did 3k first week. Where was the internet then?

I'm not really arguing whether or not Wiz made it organically or with label support on the low. I don't really want to get into the whole "industry plant" stuff. You can choose either and it wouldn't change my point.


I'm saying local people in Pittsburgh probably weren't fukkin with Wiz Khalifa like that until he became hot online. I think Kush & OJ was trending on Twitter for 4 days, which was crazy at the time Again, you can say its because he had ceos behind him pouring marketing dollars into his project on the low or you can say it was a perfect storm that happened organically. I don't care really. Either way....you can be a no name in your hometown.....Trend on Twitter and all of sudden you're that dude

 

[RTF]

I'm not really arguing whether or not Wiz made it organically or with label support on the low. I don't really want to get into the whole "industry plant" stuff. You can choose either and it wouldn't change my point.


I'm saying local people in Pittsburgh probably weren't fukkin with Wiz Khalifa like that until he became hot online. I think Kush & OJ was trending on Twitter for 4 days, which was crazy at the time Again, you can say its because he had ceos behind him pouring marketing dollars into his project on the low or you can say it was a perfect storm that happened organically. I don't care really. Either way....you can be a no name in your hometown.....Trend on Twitter and all of sudden you're that dude

The internet is the pre-eminent communication, content vendor of our time. No doubt. It's the new radio, the new television. No doubt. But if the same people control and dictate what's the most popular shyt.. what different does it make?

My point is: nikkas have gone from nobody's in they hood to international stars because of getting signed and hitting gold for the longest. Same way dudes are still building a street buzz which automatically creates a small internet buzz because that's how we tap content these days. nikkas who would do underground radio back in the day put up YouTube videos and get the same 10k they would if it was underground radio 15 years back.

 

[NotaPAWG]

Breh, he was signed before that. I'm certain of that.

People don't really understand the business of music. Getting a powerful manager will do wonders for your career whether people care about you or not. Someone like Bodega Bamz is not signed to a major label but he's with the same management as ASAP Rocky, Ferg and a bunch of other signed artists. He has some money behind him and he can get a song on radio.

Back to this internet thing. You are FULLY independent. If the nikkas down the street won't listen to your shyt. Who will? Who is clicking that first link? Who is going to create that initial internet buzz? The city. They'll give you those first 10k views on YouTube. Then bigger channels will want to hear freestyles, exclusive songs. Sites and blogs will start to feature your shyt. Then you'll get proper management. Start doing 100k on those videos. Then some fukk boy will say the internet blew him up.

If a rapper is blown up by the internet. He is signed. End of.

J. Cole is the clearest example. He put out a tape and nobody cared. New York didn't care, The Ville didn't care. Signs to Roc Nation, gets that little push, his music is on all the blogs etc. next thing the internet has blown him up. These other artists follow the same route except they don't announce they they are signed but get their music pushed through all the big content houses (RR, Complex, 2DB etc.).

Are you forgetting that Rocky is a rapper from NY who got a lot of flack from NY (and ASAP still does) for not sounding NY, correct? You think he was going to get a local following with Purple Swag?

Yams built a credible hip hop tumblr with a bunch of followers.. he used that as the platform to spark everything. shyt gets passed around on the internet quick. i remember I posted a picture of something dumb on tumblr and that shyt got like 6k+ notes in 3 hours and i only had less than 100 followers lol shyt was so annoying i deleted it cause the notifications were blowing up my dash.

If someone with a credible blog that people are into and has say 10k followers and posts a song or video and most of those followers click it and reblog or share it cause they're digging it there's 10k+ views easily, then those followers of the person who reblogged it who don't follow the person who initially posted it is seeing it, sharing it...etc etc..its building "buzz" just on that social network, then say someone with a couple hundred facebook friends or a few thousand twitter followers shares it, its get shared and exposed to people who weren't exposed to it before and they're passing it along or telling their friends about it etc etc and shyt can blow up fast..

it's not rocket science.

http://www.complex.com/music/2013/06/asap-yams-talks-tumblr-hip-hop

 

[Average Coli Poster]

At the end of the day. It all depends on if you are "that" dude or not.

ASAP Rocky got buzz n blew. Shiit, Fred The Godson got the buzz too. So did Freddie Gibbs. So did Charles Hamilton. So did Papoose. So did Vado. Kendrick Lamar n 50 cent got a Dre co-sign. Well so did Joell Oritz & Bishop Lamont & RBX & Stat Quo.

Doesnt matter how you got to the stage. If you aint built for show the results will let you know.

Edit: I learned that from my golf meeting with Lyor