More weight on chins just hits lats more friend
I row a decent clip, do weighted chins... nothing hits the biceps like curls. Very different from push exercises, which leave my triceps burning
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I row a decent clip, do weighted chins... nothing hits the biceps like curls. Very different from push exercises, which leave my triceps burning
Spliff
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You're telling me to add more weight so my form breaks and rely on accessory muscles. No thanks.
Chins = lat movement.
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
Okay so y'all are telling me that weighted chins don't work biceps? You're wrong based on electromyography. In terms of activity they are among the best exercises.
T NATION | Inside the Muscles: Best Back and Biceps Exercises
I never told anyone to break form either. You can do weighted chins with form just fine.
T NATION | Inside the Muscles: Best Back and Biceps Exercises
I never told anyone to break form either. You can do weighted chins with form just fine.
Spliff
Godzilla got busy.
Nobody is saying chins don't work biceps. Chins are fantastic due to the amount of muscle involved. But that doesn't mean you should ignore what they primarily are: a lat movement. When form breaks, you end up pseudo-curling yourself to the top secondary to lack of scapula retraction and/or depression. By you tellin me to add weight to feel my biceps suggests I sacrifice form to move more weight. We also may just be performing chin ups differently (I use shoulder width). The article is a good starting point but to be taken with a grain of salt simply due to the absences of chin width variance, elbow supported curling, and not charting when these peaks occur. I've had to dabble in EMG researches dealing with the difference in involvement between a healthy shoulder vs one with impingement and simply listing mean and peak levels without a timeline doesn't tell the whole story.
My 2c
what spliff is getting at is simple
you wouldnt up the weight on deadlift so you feel it harder in your wrists
all these exercises even chins have a target muscle group(in chins its lats)
if you cant raise yourself to the top of your chest you probably are either deficient in your lats OR you have to much weight on(weighted chins)
you wouldnt up the weight on deadlift so you feel it harder in your wrists
all these exercises even chins have a target muscle group(in chins its lats)
if you cant raise yourself to the top of your chest you probably are either deficient in your lats OR you have to much weight on(weighted chins)
have someone watch your form, DRIVE YOUR HEELS(hopefully deadlifting with chucks, weightlifting shoes, or barefoot)
if you dont have anyone with you i thoroughly suggest video taping yourself(for your own viewing, unless you want help here) to always keep your form good
i had to get assistance with my squats(i was doing low bar, officially switched to high per Spliff's advice)
I look in the mirror. My posture is trash. i dont think i can lift what im lifting (225 x6 ) with a straight back which i think is a sign i need to reduce the weight until i can.
Im gonna try the lift with gloves. feels like my grip gives out before my back does. End up doing a set with 4 fingers holding each side.
i work everyday to keep my posture good, if you walk around with a book bag let the bag hang back(IE Shoulders down and back chest out then tighten your abs)
as far as DL goes, the biggest thing is lats tight, breath in hard and brace your abs
doing those alone make a huge difference, ive learned to not look up anymore because i feel that strains you more than anything. Nowadays my head/neck stay neutral with my spine, so whatever my chest is pointing so is my head
good luck, and dont use gloves, embrace the weight. I have permanent callouses all over my hands
as far as DL goes, the biggest thing is lats tight, breath in hard and brace your abs
doing those alone make a huge difference, ive learned to not look up anymore because i feel that strains you more than anything. Nowadays my head/neck stay neutral with my spine, so whatever my chest is pointing so is my head
good luck, and dont use gloves, embrace the weight. I have permanent callouses all over my hands
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
Sure, and you're right about variance. my simple point was that weighted chins activate biceps for sure.Nobody is saying chins don't work biceps. Chins are fantastic due to the amount of muscle involved. But that doesn't mean you should ignore what they primarily are: a lat movement. When form breaks, you end up pseudo-curling yourself to the top secondary to lack of scapula retraction and/or depression. By you tellin me to add weight to feel my biceps suggests I sacrifice form to move more weight. We also may just be performing chin ups differently (I use shoulder width). The article is a good starting point but to be taken with a grain of salt simply due to the absences of chin width variance, elbow supported curling, and not charting when these peaks occur. I've had to dabble in EMG researches dealing with the difference in involvement between a healthy shoulder vs one with impingement and simply listing mean and peak levels without a timeline doesn't tell the whole story.
My 2c
i personally find it kind of easier to center myself if i have a harness on actually, due to the weight. I also feel like i get more out of my individual chins, but thats just me.
