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Alan answers the challenge that opponents of same-sex marriage are committing the slippery slope fallacy when they argue that same-sex marriage will lead to other forms of "marriage."
Smart dude...
I used this EXACT same argument with my sociology Professor, who was a black lesbian, and she hated me for it...
At the end of the day, if gays use the argument that "if consenting adults choose to get married, then they should have the right to get married"...Then this argument can be used for EVERY single type of union involving consenting adults...
If 5 gay men want to inter-marry, then logically how can we say that it is 'wrong'?
Smart dude...
I used this EXACT same argument with my sociology Professor, who was a black lesbian, and she hated me for it...
At the end of the day, if gays use the argument that "if consenting adults choose to get married, then they should have the right to get married"...Then this argument can be used for EVERY single type of union involving consenting adults...
If 5 gay men want to inter-marry, then logically how can we say that it is 'wrong'?
^ Discussion over.1. If the definition of marriage is expanded to include same-sex couples, then it will also be expanded to include other kinds of marriages, such as polygamy and bestiality.
2. These other kinds of marriages are dangerous or bad for either the people involved or for society.
3. We shouldn't allow these other kinds of marriages.
4. Therefore we shouldn't allow same-sex marriages.
I think this summarizes the argument against same-sex marriage being used here. The weakness of this position is clear, however. If what's bad about same-sex marriage is only extrinsic, in that it is allegedly conducive to other marriages that are bad, why can't those other kinds of marriages be opposed in virtue of their own badness? The argument "A is harmless but A leads to B, and B is harmful" depends on their being no possibility of preventing the move from A to B. In the case of the expansion of marriage, this is simply not credible. If the state can show a reasonable interest in prohibiting polygamy, for example (as has been done since the mid-1800s), why should the institution of same-sex marriage be expected to change that?
The reason why opposition to same-sex marriage is melting away is that people are recognizing that (a) no one is harmed by the practice; (b) some people are benefited by the practice. If legally binding monogamous relationships are good for society, as many would argue, society itself benefits by not excluding same-sex couples. If sexual promiscuity has a negative effect on society, as many would argue, it makes no sense to oppose measures, such as same-sex marriage, that work to reduce promiscuity.
why would I give a shyt enough to even find myself in a conversation where i am pontificating why they are wrong for doing THAT?If 5 gay men want to inter-marry, then logically how can we say that it is 'wrong'?
why does it have to be TWO? I can see why it has to be ADULTS and I can see why everyone involved has to be consenting, but why doe sit have to be TWO?then the obvious answer to that is that marriage is for two legal consenting adults, i imagine a person who supports gay marriage isn't necessarily in favor of polygamy and i think you'd be hard-pressed to find many people in favor of polygamy, unless they're hardcore mormons
the problem i think that people have is that they believe the argument is "marriage is anything you want it to be" which is really far from the truth
so glad I did not bother watching the video:zfg:^ Discussion over.
Guy in the video spends all his time pleading that he's not using a slippery slope fallacy, then concludes with "so when you expand marriage to include same-sex couples, you open it up to defining marriage any way you want!" aka the exact fallacy he was claiming not to use. Truly an exceptional case of idiocy.
Hey conservative clowns, how about staying the fukk out of people's personal lives?
Smart dude...
I used this EXACT same argument with my sociology Professor, who was a black lesbian, and she hated me for it...
At the end of the day, if gays use the argument that "if consenting adults choose to get married, then they should have the right to get married"...Then this argument can be used for EVERY single type of union involving consenting adults...
If 5 gay men want to inter-marry, then logically how can we say that it is 'wrong'?
why does it have to be TWO? I can see why it has to be ADULTS and I can see why everyone involved has to be consenting, but why doe sit have to be TWO?
I don't think it necessarily has to be two but I also don't see polygamy being the next cause due to too many bad associations with Mormons and shyt. I also think marriage as an institution has problems that need to be addressed, problems that are magnified even more when you get into the area of more than 2 people marrying.