DJ SNS talks about leaking Illmatic and making it his mixtape before it was released, MC Serch responds

[Tommy Gibbs]

why does Serch keep saying 165k first week

is that WORLDWIDE sales

because Serch is a pathological liar. It's what he does every time he opens his mouth.

 

[Apollo Creed]

IWW >>>>>> Illmatic

My fav Nas album

 

[Yehuda]

That shyt did not do no damn 165,000 the first week, those were top 3 numbers at the time, country singer Bonnie Raitt went number 1 around that time with 146,000.

Anyway I'm glad Nas went commercial in 1996, fukk the culture™.

 

[Art Barr]

I'm in NC. Where would I get his tapes at in the early 90s?

@Tommy Gibbs

I was saying really.
about you saying illmatic being worth a hundo.
Reportedly A hundred dollars on tape.

I would get rid .
of a first printing of illmatic.
on tape for half that.

Makes me think about selling the vinyl too.


Art Barr

 

[FunkDoc1112]

U rambling my guy. U ignoring the FACTS of what happened for ur feelings. I dont care. Lol. One way Nas fukked up was having a bunch if hood nikkas everywhere he went so his album promotion and release parties always got shut down.

Ehh I'm pretty sure Carmen and others have said the same thing about him not wanting to do promotional events and stuff for Illmatic

 

[spliz]

Ehh I'm pretty sure Carmen and others have said the same thing about him not wanting to do promotional events and stuff for Illmatic

I never said he did. But it's a fact that everytime the did an album release or party for Illmatic it got shut down. Biggie even commented on it. The nikkas he was with used to fukk shyt up. His crew was too wild.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

@Tommy Gibbs

I was saying really.
about you saying illmatic being worth a hundo.
Reportedly A hundred dollars on tape.

I would get rid .
of a first printing of illmatic.
on tape for half that.

Makes me think about selling the vinyl too.


Art Barr

YES!! Collectors want 1st pressings of classic hip hop cassette tapes. Cuban Linx original purple tape can go for as high as $500 or more. You've got to be careful with sellers though. It's a lot of scam artists out there selling the represses of Illmatic and OBFCL. You've really got to know what you're looking for to prevent paying $3-400 on a worthless repress.

 

[Surreal]

Nas went commercial when Marley Marl leaked his joints he was making for his 2nd album and couldn't trust no one

In came Stoute and TM and the rest is history....

 

[Surreal]

Only nikkaz emo about this shyt. Are deflection artist hiding their hands.


Go get out in front of it.a


Party wit house ducks breh.

Now time to deal with the consequences.

nikkaz gon say facts.

It was a fact nas was complicit.
In ruining hiphop with puff.

Now watch the deflection.



Art Barr

Facts

Love Nas but he ushered in that flossy shyt and Jiggy era while creating the Platinum Blueprint - IWW

 

[Awesome Wells]

because Serch is a pathological liar. It's what he does every time he opens his mouth.

THIS HERE!

Dude literally lies about everything.

Which is why rappers used to chase him out of offices regularly back in the day. Serch been shady since day one. And a thief.

 

[diggy]

There was talks, at the time, that Nas went commercial with It Was Written, popular samples, RnB hooks, more money and material focused rhymes etc. So, some people believed if Illmatic sold more without the bootlegging that he wouldn't have switched up Nasty for Esco.

I don't know why people act like It was written wasn't fire. shyt had me going ham in my mom's Pontiac Grand Am.

 

[MikeStamina]

Stop.

Nas ruined his own draw.

By no showing every performance.
That the bytch in yoo was debuted by common. To cover up nas no showing as a headliner. Where even AZ was there.

Yeah...bootleggers were a real thing. Plus directly responsible for low draws legit since the receipts for one for all by brand nubian.

Yet nas did himself no favors on rhe run during illmatic.

Plus he sold out on the vinyl to one love as a precursor.
That nas was already in rhe sellout bin before iww was released. Iww just cosigned what any original nas fan knew.
since the vinyl rnb remix to one love.

Nas ruined his own draw past the bootleggers. Then souled out even more.
While also being completely complicit with puff.
to ruin any credible draw culturall.
for rap moving forward since then as well. While also redoing and reusing the instrumental.
that ushered out the ol school way of thought before ll.
Plus setting up another fraudulent talent in the after school special Lauren Hill. Outside of the daytime after-school special enabled draw of Lauren hill's. explosion of the fugees. as top draws as well.
Nas literally enabled every sellout mantra in hiphop. Leading up to, during and after illmatic's bootlegger issue.
Plus if bootleggers ruined rhe album like one for all. Then back then culturally nas should have dug in deeper.
like brand nubian minus grand puba.
With punks jump up to get beat down style content. Instead of enablin rnb slash mca way sellout style records. Which were taboo and why rap is low quality. As kane said it himself. When you let rnb jnto rap. You take away rap's draw. By using an rnb artist. As they have a melodic artistic expression.
given higher draw over culturally taboo vocals in rap.

Kane said this and nas still followed the kane wack lane of making records.



Art Barr

You muhfukkas want Nasir to be OC status so bad

Fvck all that rambling gibberish you wrote

The fact the man has had over 30 yr career and you still doing revisionist history critique, instead of pure salute...

You smelling yourself too hard

 

[spliz]

Facts

Love Nas but he ushered in that flossy shyt and Jiggy era while creating the Platinum Blueprint - IWW

Nas ain't usher in shyt. Lol. There was jiggy shyt before and after IWW.

 

[MikeStamina]

This fool @Art Barr is a party closer. Dude get to talking his hippity hip hop bullshyt, you start to hear keys jingling n cars starting.
If you trying to fvck, make sure @Art Barr is faaar away. That dude can dry up wet p*ssy like nobody's business

 

[Art Barr]

You muhfukkas want Nasir to be OC status so bad

Fvck all that rambling gibberish you wrote

The fact the man has had over 30 yr career and you still doing revisionist history critique, instead of pure salute...

You smelling yourself too hard

Stop nikka.
Stop cape'n nikka.

Like I said watch rhe deflection.

There was no need for nas to go full jiggy.


nikka...
Nas would never have made any bread. If the pedigree where I came from never made primetime a draw in radio and TV.

Yet in that....
There was never a complicit setup. To endorse someone corrosive the culture. Plus they elevated said talent to being thought of as good as rakim.


which set nas up. Yet nas never had to make will smith get jiggy with it.
Nas never had to be completely complicit.
in setting puff up in legacy another time.
Steve stout got beat because puff dressed like jesus. Yet the knowledge guy...is cool with that imagery.

yeah aight. .

This fool @Art Barr is a party closer. Dude get to talking his hippity hip hop bullshyt, you start to hear keys jingling n cars starting.
If you trying to fvck, make sure @Art Barr is faaar away. That dude can dry up wet p*ssy like nobody's business

This is why you not lothario nikka.

nikka where yo house at.
a femaLe gave you.
With no commitment nikka.
No pillow talk.

Man,...if you deflecting ass goofie do not stfu.



Stop the deflection.
Now yo hands.
got baby oil on them nikka.
Don"t hide dem bytches now.

Ol nas stan ass nikkaz.

Catch the table you been getting put through.

Ol baby oil bootie bandit enablin ass nikkaz.

Let yo people go party with deviants and house ducks ass nikkas.

it is all cool.
if it ain't me face ass nikkaz.

Ol lack of moral and cultural integrity face ass nikkaz.






Art Barr