Disturbing video: Taliban executing woman to a cheering crowd

[Dusty Bake Activate]

far more women get tortured and killed by hindus in India than by muslims

you & your friends on here have terrible confirmation bias problems

What I was referring to as ethnic here is support for Taliban doing ad hoc executions

If there's a court process for adultery that's different and actually has been widespread in many cultures for a long time

western courts specialized in having strange whippings, burnings, markings and shamings for things like this.

This is a bullshyt copout. So because Hindus supposedly commit more violence against women than Muslims that means Islam doesn't play a very instrumental role in violence against women among Muslim communities?

A friend of mine (ex-Muslim) once had to talk some of his Muslim friends out of killing one of their homies for converting to Christianity. These were black American Muslims, not cave dwelling Taliban members. Are you gonna tell me Islam had nothing to do with that and it was just their culture?

Your delusional logic gymnastics in defense of Islam is getting old. Nobody is saying Islam is the sole reason for violence against women in Muslim communities but all you do is try to diminish or deny that it plays ANY role, and I don't think you are ignorant enough to even believe that yourself. The video says the crowd is chanting that Allah has called for her execution and you're like "Uh I think it's force and culture" in your first post. I think you may have missed a factor there buddy.

 

[zerozero]

This is a bullshyt copout. So because Hindus supposedly commit more violence against women than Muslims that means Islam doesn't play a very instrumental role in violence against women among Muslim communities?

A friend of mine (ex-Muslim) once had to talk some of his Muslim friends out of killing one of their homies for converting to Christianity. These were black American Muslims, not cave dwelling Taliban members. Are you gonna tell me Islam had nothing to do with that and it was just their culture?

Your delusional logic gymnastics in defense of Islam is getting old. Nobody is saying Islam is the sole reason for violence against women in Muslim communities but all you do is try to diminish or deny that it plays ANY role, and I don't think you are ignorant enough to even believe that yourself. The video says the crowd is chanting that Allah has called for her execution and you're like "Uh I think it's force and culture" in your first post. I think you may have missed a factor there buddy.

for some reason everytime someone's been quoting me on the coli for the last couple days it's like they can't read

I said I wonder why the TALIBAN ('these guys') have support in these villages. You don't think the taliban are ethnically indigenous?? you don't think that has a role to play in their power?? you don't think they run around holding these territories down like a gang?

If people support them cause of the extra religiosity I don't know why they wouldn't support the muslim dominated central government.

I don't even know what to say about your homies' homies trying to kill his homie in America. that's moronic.

 

[the cac mamba]

So women in the west don't get raped, killed for cheating on their man, tortured by sick freaks? Show me some numbers that proves domestic violence is more evident in Muslim countries than the west. Domestic violence and these types of issues with women are everywhere, singling out Muslims is wrong, even though Muslims should be held in a higher manner because we have been shown the right path but unfortunately we chose not to follow it correctly.

2002 Mecca girls' school fire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

how bout that incident where the fathers watched their daughters burn in the school because they wouldnt lt them leave the school without being covered, a culturally accepted tradition? that is MUSLIM society

for u to sit there and accuse people of being ignorant while saying "us muslims have been shown the right path" is arrogance at best and delusion at worst. get the fukk off ur high horse and start looking at some of the behavior in these muslim societies from a more objective standpoint. youre a knowledgable dude but your smug assertions detract from your arguments

does this behavior happen solely because the societies are muslim? no

but are they muslim? yes

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

for some reason everytime someone's been quoting me on the coli for the last couple days it's like they can't read

I said I wonder why the TALIBAN ('these guys') have support in these villages. You don't think the taliban are ethnically indigenous?? you don't think that has a role to play in their power?? you don't think they run around holding these territories down like a gang?

If people support them cause of the extra religiosity I don't know why they wouldn't support the muslim dominated central government.

I don't even know what to say about your homies' homies trying to kill his homie in America. that's moronic.

I read you just fine bruh. You asked why these people have sociological support. Well gee you don't think that has anything to do with the fact that oppression of women is sociologically normative there and you don't think similar events take place in parts of Afghanistan where the Taliban are not the authority? So it does go back to social norms and you were essentially using the "it's not religion it's culture copout" and you continued to in your next comments, citing oppression of women among Hindus as if that somehow explains away or offers counter-evidence to the obvious problematic relationship Islamic societies tend to have with women.

 

[Habit]

I read you just bruh. You asked why these people have sociological support. Well gee you don't think that has anything to do with the fact that oppression of women is sociologically normative there and similar events don't take place in parts of Afghanistan where the Taliban are not the authority? So it does go back to social norms and you were essentially using the "it's not religion it's culture copout" and you continued to in your next comments, citing oppression of women among Hindus as if that somehow explains away or offers counter-evidence to the obvious problematic relationship Islamic societies tend to have with women.

This is confusing. You consider Hindus part of Islamic society?

I just think major parts of that region is backwards.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

This is confusing. You consider Hindus part of Islamic society.

 

[zerozero]

I read you just bruh. You asked why these people have sociological support. Well gee you don't think that has anything to do with the fact that oppression of women is sociologically normative there and similar events don't take place in parts of Afghanistan where the Taliban are not the authority? So it does go back to social norms and you were essentially using the "it's not religion it's culture copout" and you continued to in your next comments, citing oppression of women among Hindus as if that somehow explains away the obvious problematic relationship Islamic societies tend to have with women.

My deal with this is that the rule of the state has to extend its jurisdiction over the whole area. That's what I meant by talking about support for the taliban. Yes Afghanistan has been a hotbed of atrocities but internally and by external powers for a long time, but the behavior of this 90s militia supported by the Pakistanis doesn't have to be the way things are done there

Specifically what I'm saying is that the death penalty for adultery with a legal process is different from some dudes making a woman crouch and shooting her in the head and running away

88m3 is a troll and I'm not continuing the conversation I was having with him with you. I specifically said I didn't want to start that exchange

 

[Habit]

Would zerozero be able to enlighten me, then.

 

[zerozero]

no it's 3AM and I have a lot of work to do

I asked a common sense question to resolve this issue (where is Taliban support coming from?) and instead into some exchange I've been having with these dudes for like an year continuously

 

[50CentStan]

A) Prove it

B) I hope hope they fall as short as they do in your eyes as they do in mine

C) Do you consider adultery a justifiable murder?

A) I was speculating, just as u did with your post, saying you'd love to compare the figures, hinting that you believe you would be right. Find the numbers friend, I am pretty busy until after ramadan.

B) I do feel brothers and sisters need to follow the deen more, but I can not judge because I am far from perfect as well my friend.

C) I don't think murder is justified, i do believe adultery should be a crime that if convicted and proven with 2 or more reliable witnesses should have capital pun, not that I am heartless and ruthless but these things are what's ruining us as a society and people won't stop until there are real consequences, and still some won't stop.

 

[50CentStan]

2002 Mecca girls' school fire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

how bout that incident where the fathers watched their daughters burn in the school because they wouldnt lt them leave the school without being covered, a culturally accepted tradition? that is MUSLIM society

for u to sit there and accuse people of being ignorant while saying "us muslims have been shown the right path" is arrogance at best and delusion at worst. get the fukk off ur high horse and start looking at some of the behavior in these muslim societies from a more objective standpoint. youre a knowledgable dude but your smug assertions detract from your arguments

does this behavior happen solely because the societies are muslim? no

but are they muslim? yes

Calm down friend, that was a very sad tradgdy. It all depends on the intentions of the father, but many scholars agree if it is a life and death situation you can make exceptions, it's sad those men didnt save their daughters, and may those girls be granted paradise.

I am not cocky to be Muslim or on a high horse, what I meant was when a non Muslim does something I can say they haven't learned the Koran or Islam so I can't really blame them. When a Muslim commits an atrocious act it's shameful because they should have knowledge of Islam, which gives them no excuse to act that way.

 

[the next guy]

Seriously though you will find this anywhere in the Muslim world.


Why are you acting like its an "ethnic" or "cultural" thing?

From Canada to America to Europe to the Middle East to Africa to India to South East Asia


The hands of the followers of Mohammad are soaked in the blood of women

Not in Turkey or Indonesia

Yes some, Arabs, Pakis and Afghans are stupid. Let's keep like it like that.

 

[Fervid]

The dude that shot her was her husband?

Fuсked culture where a dude can just walk up to his wife, shoot her 9 8-9 times then be like

 

[ogc163]

C) I don't think murder is justified, i do believe adultery should be a crime that if convicted and proven with 2 or more reliable witnesses should have capital pun, not that I am heartless and ruthless but these things are what's ruining us as a society and people won't stop until there are real consequences, and still some won't stop.

Crazy thing is I think your deadass serious.

 

[MikelArteta]

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