Diddy sonning Jermaine Dupri and calling for that Dre fade on Versuz

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u ATL nikkas is some sensitive suspect dikkriding ass nikkas with an inferiority complex

Don't lump the entire ATL with T.I. and the few goofs on here who want to turn this into a South vs East region war where none exists.
 
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While I think JD v Puffy would be good from a purely musical standpoint, it’s clear to anyone who has been following hip hop since the 90s why Diddy’s only opponent should be Dre.

JD should face Timbaland
 

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JD should face Timbaland

That would be a dope match up, but it also brings to light why JD is underrated. Jermaine Dupri has produced key songs on some of the biggest albums, but when you look at his catalog, how many big moments does he have. When you look at a Timbaland and think about these (even if you didn't like the songs), they were moments:

Ginuwine- Pony

Aaliyah- One In A Million

Missy- The Rain

Aaliyah- Are You That Somebody

Jay Z- Big Pimpin

Missy- Get Ur Freak On

Missy- Work It

Jay- Dirt Off Your Shoulder

And that's without getting into any of the Pop songs.
 

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That would be a dope match up, but it also brings to light why JD is underrated. Jermaine Dupri has produced key songs on some of the biggest albums, but when you look at his catalog, how many big moments does he have. When you look at a Timbaland and think about these (even if you didn't like the songs), they were moments:

Ginuwine- Pony

Aaliyah- One In A Million

Missy- The Rain

Aaliyah- Are You That Somebody

Jay Z- Big Pimpin

Missy- Get Ur Freak On

Missy- Work It

Jay- Dirt Off Your Shoulder

And that's without getting into any of the Pop songs.


You're reaching with half of these.

JD has alot more moments than that.
 

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List his moments. I'm talking game changers. Like songs that dropped and it was a shift.


Only like 2 or 3 of those Timbaland productions you listed, actually fit that description.
 

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And people wonder why the South always speaks about the bias and disrespect shown by New York/East Coasters. Sonned?
nah

you being soft right now.

NY scene is always ultra competitive that doesn't mean you should cry about it and this ain't about bias if they asking for Dre, he is not from NY either.

South been dominant for a while yet people are still stuck in their feelings.
 

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Only like 2 or 3 of those Timbaland productions you listed, actually fit that description.

All of those were game changers or moments:

Pony- this was the world's introduction to Ginuwine and nothing else sounded like this

One In A Million- another one that didn't sound like anything else

The Rain- again, another one that was left field in terms of the flip of Ann Pebbles "I Can't Stand The Rain" with the added effects and programming

Are You That Somebody- the bounce on this one and the giggling baby

Big Pimpin- another left field hit that this time employs an Egyptian sample

Get Ur Freak On- where the aforementioned track to it to Egypt, this one is more Bhangra and would become a wave for other producers to mine that sound

Work It- chorus is flipped backwards and it's possibly the most left field of the Missy/Timbaland tandem. Never liked this song, but it is what is.

Dirt Off Your Shoulder- this was already out of here before the album officially dropped. Again nothing like it out there and it became a source for sampled lines for future hooks.

^^^ Every one of these songs was a moment where people went :ohhh: trying to figure out how the crickets, frogs, gigling babies, backward choruses, stuttering triplet drums, shuffled drums, and beatboxing all worked together to form whatever it was not only coming out of their stereos, but other cars.
 

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All of those were game changers or moments:

Pony- this was the world's introduction to Ginuwine and nothing else sounded like this.


IThey lifted alot of that song from. Jamecia's rodeo style. So I'm not cosigning that last sentence.

But yea, pony was indeed a moment. I agree with that part.

Pony
One in a million
The rain
I'll give you big pimpin since it crossed over.

You're stretching the term "moment" with the rest of these.

I see that word is gonna be used loosely like the term "movement".:francis:
 

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IThey lifted alot of that song from. Jamecia's rodeo style. So I'm not cosigning that last sentence.

But yea, pony was indeed a moment. I agree with that part.

Pony
One in a million
The rain
I'll give you big pimpin since it crossed over.

You're stretching the term "moment" with the rest of these.

I see that word is gonna be used loosely like the term "movement".:francis:

They lifted nothing from "Rodeo Style". You not co-signing the last sentence means nothing. "Rodeo Style" sounds like a Jodeci rip off with those same Zapp talk box effects. "Pony" has a burping frog effect that was lifted from a module. Huge difference.

Also crossing over has no bearing on whether or not a song is a moment. If that were the case, I would've listed "Try Again". "Work It" was a far bigger crossover than "Big Pimpin".
 
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Aside from "Cheat On You" from Harlem World and the So So Def remix to "Big Poppa", JD doesn't have credits on Bad Boy albums.
JD has production credits on the first Lil Kim album too. He also did the Total can’t you see remix with Keith Murray. I was almost certain he did a 112 track but after looking into it, the track he did for them was when they were on Def Jam so I guess we can’t count that
 
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