Did you guys read this letter to the local NAACP by the Sheriff of Lee County?

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The letter:

Office 0f the Sheriff

State 0f Florida

County of Lee

July 16, 2013

Lee County Branch NAACP

3903 Dr. Martin Luther King Boulevard
Fort Myers, FL 33916

Attn. President James Muwakkil

Dear President Muwakkil:

I have been invited to the NAACP Freedom Fund Awards Banquet and
have been asked to sponsor the event financially. I will not be doing
either but wanted to explain my concerns and the reasons for my
decision. Frankly, I believe the NAACP locally and nationally loses
credibility when it picks and chooses which issues it rallies around and
embraces what often appears to be a double standard relative to race and
ethnicity. I am citing two (2) local and recent examples of my concern.

Tragically, record numbers of young, black males have been gunned down
in the streets of Fort Myers in an epidemic of alarming proportions over
the last few years. In virtually every instance the killer was also black
and the majority of those cases remain open. Many more black citizens
have been injured and were lucky to survive similar circumstances. To
date, I am unaware of any appreciable attention or public outcry the
NAACP locally or nationally have afforded these issues in our own,
proverbial backyard. '

Conversely, you immediately inserted yourself and the Lee County Branch
in the matter of Trayvon Martin’s tragic death in a city hours from ours
and publically declared that matter to have been mishandled by the police
while expressing your intention to travel to Sanford sporting a “hoodie”

I suspect that when you said that, you had not examined any of the
evidence or specifics of the incident; and I am certain you would not have
reacted that way had George Zimmerman been black or Trayvon Martin
white.

The fact is that Zimmerman is half Latino [Peruvian mother) but was
portrayed early on by media and others as being “white.” That seemed to
fit better for a “white/black” contrast much like the media altering of the
911 recordings helped fan the flames of racism early on. Ironically,
President Obama is half white but is generally referred to as being “black”

and so there appears to be an inclination among some to insert ethnicity
as it fits with their agenda.

Fast forward to the trial and verdict which resulted in Zimmerman’s
acquittal...the same trial, verdict, and in fact justice system that you
would have applauded had it convicted him. A leading cause of death for
young, black males across our nation is murder and an astounding
percentage is being murdered 'by young, black males. The noticeable lack
of involvement and attention given those tragedies by the NAACP begs the
question why in my mind. Black on black and black on white seem to
illicit far less emotion than the proportionately occasional white on black
examples like Zimmerman who as noted earlier is actually only as
“white” as President Obama.

Finally, I find resurrected fixation with the portrait of Robert E. Lee
and the demand for its removal regrettable. The timing so proximate to
the Zimmerman race baiting is certainly suspect. While I am not black, l
continue to be amazed by what is deemed “racially offensive and] or
insensitive” and what is not. For example, the rampant use of the word

“******” in the wildly popular hip-hop culture that floods the ears of

youth across this nation and is comprised primarily of black artists

apparently stirs little to no emotion among blacks but the portrait of à
General Lee does? I am fifty (50) years old, and I have heard more black '
people (including top, black comedians being funny] utter the word

“******” in my lifetime than I could have ever fathomed. I continue to

wonder why the NAACP does not publicly decry this trend and advocate
its cessation. It is for these reasons that I feel your focus on the Lee
portrait amounts to little more than unrealistic posturing that serves to
further a divide and promote a double standard. After all sir; our county is
named after General Robert E. Lee and his portrait is far from the only
reference to him, so I am left to Wonder where this agenda stops.

I consider you a friend and hope my candor does not ruin that; however, I
simply find myself unable to support your professional agenda, which I
believe actually contradicts the end goal of eliminating double standards.

Warm regards,

Sheriff Mike Scott

Links to the story:
http://www.news-press.com/article/20130719/NEWS01/307190027/Lee-County-sheriff-NAACP-leader-dispute

http://www.news-press.com/article/20130720/NEWS01/307200019/Lee-County-sheriff-NAACP-leader-make-peace
 

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anytime a white person uses the excuse,"well black people say ****** all the time" you can know with 100% certainty that they are racist, like why is that important to you? as if white people are missing out on something in life by not being able to say ******.
 

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Tragically, record numbers of young, black males have been gunned down
in the streets of Fort Myers in an epidemic of alarming proportions over
the last few years. In virtually every instance the killer was also black
and the majority of those cases remain open. Many more black citizens
have been injured and were lucky to survive similar circumstances. To
date, I am unaware of any appreciable attention or public outcry the
NAACP locally or nationally have afforded these issues in our own,
proverbial backyard. '

Crime rates in the country are high in general. The reason that there are many black people killing each other is because black people tend to live near each other. Whenever black people move to mostly white areas, the white people in those areas leave. The reason that many of these black people are turning to crime and getting involved in gang activity is because of a lack of economic and educational opportunity, poor policing and because of images that are exported to them by white media bosses that glamorize that lifestyle.

Conversely, you immediately inserted yourself and the Lee County Branch
in the matter of Trayvon Martin’s tragic death in a city hours from ours
and publically declared that matter to have been mishandled by the police
while expressing your intention to travel to Sanford sporting a “hoodie”

I suspect that when you said that, you had not examined any of the
evidence or specifics of the incident; and I am certain you would not have
reacted that way had George Zimmerman been black or Trayvon Martin
white.


There wouldn't be an issue if Zimmerman was black or Trayvon white. The issue here is that there is an ongoing narrative in America that features black lives as being worth less than white lives. Many white people are failing to see Trayvon as a child because they don't see black people as fully human. This is why there is so much attention and controversy. There is no question that Zimmerman would be promptly arrested if the races were reversed or if both people were white.

The fact is that Zimmerman is half Latino [Peruvian mother) but was
portrayed early on by media and others as being “white.” That seemed to
fit better for a “white/black” contrast much like the media altering of the
911 recordings helped fan the flames of racism early on. Ironically,
President Obama is half white but is generally referred to as being “black”
and so there appears to be an inclination among some to insert ethnicity
as it fits with their agenda.

There is no evidence that suggests that Zimmerman identifies with his latin side. Furthermore, many latin people are not mestizo--that is to say they do not have significant amounts of native american DNA. Either way, there is nothing to suggest that Zimmerman considers himself part of the latin community and is accepted within it. He also appears white. You won't confuse Barack Obama for a caucasian person and he's been reminded that he's got enough black in him to be treated with suspicion like most African Americans are. He has shared experiences with black people in America. There is no evidence that Zimmerman is similar in anyway, and such a comparison is not only flawed but insulting to Latin people, black people, and mixed race individuals.

Fast forward to the trial and verdict which resulted in Zimmerman’s
acquittal...the same trial, verdict, and in fact justice system that you
would have applauded had it convicted him. A leading cause of death for
young, black males across our nation is murder and an astounding
percentage is being murdered 'by young, black males. The noticeable lack
of involvement and attention given those tragedies by the NAACP begs the
question why in my mind. Black on black and black on white seem to
illicit far less emotion than the proportionately occasional white on black
examples like Zimmerman who as noted earlier is actually only as
“white” as President Obama.

Yeah, except the NAACP has been trying to address the issue of instability within the black community for literally decades. This isn't news that's reported because white America doesn't give a fukk about the crime rates in inner cities unless they want to use it to deflect from an issue that is undeniably an example of white supremacy at work.

Finally, I find resurrected fixation with the portrait of Robert E. Lee
and the demand for its removal regrettable. The timing so proximate to
the Zimmerman race baiting is certainly suspect. While I am not black, l
continue to be amazed by what is deemed “racially offensive and] or
insensitive” and what is not. For example, the rampant use of the word

“******” in the wildly popular hip-hop culture that floods the ears of

youth across this nation and is comprised primarily of black artists

apparently stirs little to no emotion among blacks but the portrait of à
General Lee does? I am fifty (50) years old, and I have heard more black '
people (including top, black comedians being funny] utter the word

“******” in my lifetime than I could have ever fathomed. I continue to

wonder why the NAACP does not publicly decry this trend and advocate
its cessation. It is for these reasons that I feel your focus on the Lee
portrait amounts to little more than unrealistic posturing that serves to
further a divide and promote a double standard. After all sir; our county is
named after General Robert E. Lee and his portrait is far from the only
reference to him, so I am left to Wonder where this agenda stops.


Firstly, no black person ever pronounces the word "******" with a hard r. This is done deliberately, not because black people don't know what vowels and consonants are. The usage of the word depends upon context. For many African Americans, that word is one that means something else. It has become a sign of brotherhood(note how the word is never used in reference to black females). African Americans are right to be wary of white people using such a word because it is usually accompanied by vicious threats and put downs. Being able to say that word is literally one of the only few benefits that you get being a black man in America. It is simply a nonissue, is it really that hard to respect 1 wish of the people who LITERALLY HELPED BUILD THE COUNTRY? aren't black people at least owed that? And there is absolutely no way that this man can be so devoid of empathy that he actually can't fathom that black people would not want to see the man who fought against their emancipation being treated as if he's some sort of hero.

I consider you a friend and hope my candor does not ruin that; however, I
simply find myself unable to support your professional agenda, which I
believe actually contradicts the end goal of eliminating double standards.

:rudy:

Warm regards,

Sheriff Mike Scott

whole letter is just :trash: same talking points being repeated over and over again by white people that just don't get it.
 

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i don't neccessarily agree with the sheriff's points, but i myself have said plenty of times since reaching adulthood that the NAACP fights the wrong fights.
 

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so how does he do that without black people resenting what hes doing?
go to the NAACP meeting and speak on it, instead of giving a half hearted quasi racist diatribe on the subject matter. Because in essence he said, "I am not going to give a shyt because Blacks kill Blacks and call each other ******" He could've easily went to meeting gave out crime rate statistics and promise to do a better job cleaning up and the streets and protecting all of its citizens. Because I know for sure that Blacks do not like being victims of crime just as much as whites.
 

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i feel what he's saying. but since i don't know him and his record, i'd like to hear from the other side calling in out on is own bigotry then see what both sides come up with.

should've ended halfway and not touched on the n-word.
 

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i dont disagree with him except for the zimmerman defense
Where I'm from, not unlike most metropolitan areas, the police know who's doing the majority of the violent crimes, because their names keep popping up. Yet the police really won't do anything other than show up and ask a couple of questions and go on about their day. I don't hear anyone talking about stepping up police presence in these high crime areas. I don't hear anyone talking about hiring more Black police officers to patrol the neighborhoods and create more of a communal cooperation.

The whole "******s call each other ******" is the weakest argument that white people can come up with. Because it's their only argument because Blacks can point to countless instances of racist violence, destruction, and systematic economic blockades that impact the Black community.
 

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Where I'm from, not unlike most metropolitan areas, the police know who's doing the majority of the violent crimes, because their names keep popping up. Yet the police really won't do anything other than show up and ask a couple of questions and go on about their day. I don't hear anyone talking about stepping up police presence in these high crime areas. I don't hear anyone talking about hiring more Black police officers to patrol the neighborhoods and create more of a communal cooperation.

The whole "******s call each other ******" is the weakest argument that white people can come up with. Because it's their only argument because Blacks can point to countless instances of racist violence, destruction, and systematic economic blockades that impact the Black community.

well i agree with increasing police presence and community policing and arresting people, its disgusting the way crimes go unsolved but saying that black neighborhoods need more police isnt exactly popular

i have a problem with the ****** thing just because, its not for the reasons he stated but i think its just a dumb habit that we need to let go and we need to improve black culture, i believe in freedom of speech but the use of nikka lowers black culture IMHO
 

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well i agree with increasing police presence and community policing and arresting people, its disgusting the way crimes go unsolved but saying that black neighborhoods need more police isnt exactly popular

i have a problem with the ****** thing just because, its not for the reasons he stated but i think its just a dumb habit that we need to let go and we need to improve black culture, i believe in freedom of speech but the use of nikka lowers black culture IMHO
Yeah, more police in black neighborhoods would not be a thing that black people would like, esp. with the incidents of police brutality and shootings. But I def. think there needs to be more police and community interaction, because the truth is that not all police are a$$holes and not all blacks are thugs, babymakers and dope fiends. Also, something that doesn't get touched on is the amount of disrespect that younger people have for their parents, esp. their mothers. These young mothers are allowing their sons sell dope out there house and let them bring young girls in and out of their house without so much a peep. But when the police come knocking on their doors then they want to raise hell with the cops. I am not denying that we need to do better, but I think we aren't going to start with getting blacks to stop calling each other nikkas. And to me that's the white man's go to argument when defending racism. I make it a point to not call people nikka, I slip, but I never say it around white people. Also we need to counter that argument by simply saying that we'll stop saying it when they stop calling us that, because they called us ****** first, but they are using the argument to say that they'll stop saying it when we stop calling each other nikka.
 

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This "debate" is a waste of time. Something happened that changed the world recently. I don't know exactly what changed, but now racist whites are simply comfortable saying what they think aloud. Simple. No "argument" can sway them cause they learned to say "******" before they could read. Question is: what we gone do? Gotta be something real aka economic.
 
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