Despair is settling in’: female suicides on rise in Taliban’s Afghanistan

[voiture]

whether you believe it or not, those societies actually have heavy female support, they support it as much as the men, they train their sons in it and they prepare their daughters for it.

Is it for me, no, but women choose islam over some of the native traditions in afghanistan and they typically prefer to live under islamic law there than tribal law when given the choice.

Can you provide me a link to this study or else I'm going to call you a bullshytter

 

[Contrefaire]

Funny wasn't a prison and there weren't this suicides before the US.

What they wont tell you is the majority of these suicides come from the little dens of soddom and gommorah the US setup where a lot of these women were prostituting and became hooked on drugs and now they don't want to act with sense anymore. They want to be western whores so bad they are killing themselves.

I'm sure the majority of men and women don't care in that country theis is western PR

What the fukk are you talking about???? You must be a Taliban goat fukker yourself to say some bullshyt like this.

 

[MischievousMonkey]

Hard to go back once you bit the apple

Humans are so backwards

 

[skylove4]

That’s why I know I’m dealing with an idiot on here when fakkits say it’s just the way on their land and we should respect it. fukk them savages they deserve to be brought to heel

 

[David_TheMan]

Can you provide me a link to this study or else I'm going to call you a bullshytter

There is a good book from an Afghan named Anaand Gopal


He goes into the culture, women have more rights as wives and single women under islamic law than tribal law. Pre-war women and familes had the option to be judged under tribal law or islam, because tribal shyt was heavy with rape and homosexuality, most people prefered islamic law, it is viewed as just and fair. Harsh sanctions of harassment, messing with kids, and hard on men if they mistreat their wives under islamic law and more just to the people with regard to court dealings and fmily issues.

Thats why the Taliban had major support in souther Afghanistan and was moving and getting support in northan afghanistan. On top of that pre invasion, Afghan warlords in the north were starting to get wiped out by the taliban and they were about to take over the whole country and kill the pipeline talk and cut off the drug trade to europe via turkey that the northern warlords were engaged in as that was anti islamic. and it was the main source of income for the northern warlords.

Long story short Jan Muhammad and Hamad Karzi were selected by the US to be their government in the south, both were heavy with the tribal shyt and reimposed it in the south, they killed pre war taliban. The current taliban is only similar in name only and being islamic but like before in response to what the tribal shyt was they again regained massive support and are back to ruling islamic way and this was with support of even some women's rights groups in afghanistan as they saw the western women's right's push as being used to disrupt and control their society.

Here is a afghan woman speaking on it.

‘Afghan Women’ Aren’t Who You Think They Are

Western powers and donors created a category that consigned the women of Afghanistan to perpetual victimhood—while all parties instrumentalized them for political ends.

foreignpolicy.com

You have to be leary when western nations start these compaigns.

 

[David_TheMan]

What the fukk are you talking about???? You must be a Taliban goat fukker yourself to say some bullshyt like this.

Damn who wold think you would get this level of ignorance on a supposedly black forum.
Yall sound like some GWB supporters

 

[bnew]

I'm not.
I'm opposed to foreign interventionism that went to that country destroyed their lives and generations of people and left and want to throw stones about a society recovering from affair when most of this shyt is due to what westerners caused.

what exactly do you think life was like in afghanistan pre-foreign interventionism?

 

[David_TheMan]

what exactly do you think life was like in afghanistan pre-foreign interventionism?

Depends on the province, but if you read the book I linked you will have a depiction of life.

Kabul because of the soviet invasion attempt was largely left to be a psuedo comminist city. Educated class, women could dress modern but chaste, more hospitals and business, more secular government in the city.

southern largely agricultural, Kabul people were allowed and pretty unbothered traveling in southern afghanistan as it was taliban controlled, typically follow the rules of islam and you are good to visit family.

Visiting northern afghan was different as there was a war going on with the northern warlords vs taliban, non unified tribal governments and you have to deal with highway men unlesss you traveled with a family aligned with the area.

Outside of kabul, largely empoverished, sustinance living, still viewed movies on reels brought over from pakistan and/or india.
So very dated society probably very similar to 1880s US in terms of development, tech, healthcare and etc.

That said also relatively peaceful in kabul and in taliban held areas not along conflict zones.

 

[old pig]

Worst post of the month and it's only the 2nd

that idiot gets bushed like once a month probably more lol smh

 

[Contrefaire]

Damn who wold think you would get this level of ignorance on a supposedly black forum.
Yall sound like some GWB supporters

Oh yeah you def one of them

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Funny wasn't a prison and there weren't this suicides before the US.

What they wont tell you is the majority of these suicides come from the little dens of soddom and gommorah the US setup where a lot of these women were prostituting and became hooked on drugs and now they don't want to act with sense anymore. They want to be western whores so bad they are killing themselves.

I'm sure the majority of men and women don't care in that country theis is western PR

This is such total bullshyt.

This is May 2001:

Women in the Taliban controlled areas surveyed by PHR almost unanimously expressed that the Taliban had made their life "much worse" (94-98%). These women reported worse physical (84% vs. 63%) and mental health (85% vs. 54%), including extremely high rates of major depression (76% vs. 28%) and suicide (16% vs. 9%), compared to women living in non-Taliban controlled areas. In fact, the majority of women (65-94%) who were exposed to Taliban edicts attributed their depression to official Taliban policy. Women exposed to Taliban restrictions also reported to PHR greater declines in education and work opportunities compared to women not exposed to Taliban policies. PHR found that the majority of women surveyed (59-79%) in the Taliban-controlled areas indicated that the Taliban policies forced them to restrict their daily activities "almost always" or "always". In addition, 21-64% of women surveyed by PHR reported having no access to health care services, and an inability to afford care was given as the most common reason (45-55%) that women in Taliban-controlled areas were unable to access it. Despite near total dependence on international aid, PHR found that 34-46% of women surveyed said that the Taliban policies interfered with their access to vital humanitarian assistance.

November 1999:

Several Afghan women reportedly committed suicide to avoid such a fate. In one case, a father who saw Mujahideen guards coming for his daughter reportedly killed her before she could be taken away. Scores of Afghan women were abducted and detained by Mujahideen groups and commanders and then used for sexual purposes or sold into prostitution. Some were victimised for belonging to a particular religious or ethnic group or by commanders or guards allied to an opposed faction. A woman told Amnesty International that her 13-year-old niece was abducted by the armed guards of a warring commander in late 1993. "They said their commander wanted her. They took her away. She was resisting and screaming, but they dragged her away. We were frightened that if we did anything we all would be killed. They would kill any girl who refused to go with them."

August 1998:

The absence of health statistics renders it impossible to learn the suicide rate among women in Kabul, but one woman PHR interviewed reported that parents have committed suicide because they can’t feed their children and that young women who have lost hope are committing suicide.233 In PHR’s health and human rights survey, 21% of the 160 participants indicated that they had suicidal thoughts “quite often” or “extremely often”.

Women's health and human rights in Afghanistan - Afghanistan

Assessment in English on Afghanistan; published on 24 May 2001 by PHR

reliefweb.int

https://www.peacewomen.org/sites/default/files/Health_TalibanWarWomen_PHR_1998_0.pdf

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/asa110111999en.pdf

I think the US intervention was completely fukked up too, but you're ignorant as hell if you can't realize the Taliban was destroying women's lives long before then. Read A Thousand Splendid Suns if you want a picture from an Afghan of what women's lives were like under Taliban rule.

 

[Techniec]

Might need to go back home and marry four of em, save these beautiful ladies

 

[Mister Terrific]

I'd hate to be a woman OR man born in that hell hole

Don’t forget being a child too. They are a country of baby fukkers. The “good guys” we supported were basically operating a massive pedophile ring. Most American soldiers will tell you about it it was so rampant there. Vice did a documentary on it.


So basically you have taliban barbarians on one hand or opium dealing pedos on the other. The majority of Afghanis would prefer the taliban or don’t care as to why the military folded so fast.

 

[Remote]

Funny wasn't a prison and there weren't this suicides before the US.

What they wont tell you is the majority of these suicides come from the little dens of soddom and gommorah the US setup where a lot of these women were prostituting and became hooked on drugs and now they don't want to act with sense anymore. They want to be western whores so bad they are killing themselves.

I'm sure the majority of men and women don't care in that country theis is western PR

You must be aware that you’re a piece of shyt, right?

Like, you know this. I’m sure.

 

[David_TheMan]

You must be aware that you’re a piece of shyt, right?

Like, you know this. I’m sure.

Strange that I politely replied to your assertions and citations with an analysis of your actual quotes and counter citations and your only rebuttal is to result to a personal attack.

These are the best victories.