Deontay Wilder Fight Purse vs Breazeale Revealed

[WesCrook]

I agree.

He could easy sign a lucrative deal with espn or with dzn and have trilogies and make a shot load of money but he creates these barriers.

Just look at it like this. If your a welterweight u go sign with pbc cuz all the talent is there, Crawford made a big mistake there.

If your a middleweight u go to dzn cuz all the talent at middleweight is there, but u got one of the charlo bros making that same mistake too.

Agreed.

People can argue that Crawford is the best @ 147, but he needs those other guys more than they need him.

There's no need for any PBC welter too call out Crawford at this time because they have plenty of options where they are now.

 

[Kinguno]

From my understanding Wilder is independent and works with Showtime fight to fight where its easier to fight a bigger pool as opposed to Tyson (signed to ESPN/Top Rank) and AJ(DAZN and Matchroom) who are locked in

AJ has the benefit of an entire region that loves Boxing enough to bypass their racism

DAZN is suspect to me because how many people really pay from the 2.4 million subscribers and where does the money for everything come from

If Im Wilder I'm fighting maybe four more years max getting ghost

 

[The Ruler 09]

From my understanding Wilder is independent and works with Showtime fight to fight where its easier to fight a bigger pool as opposed to Tyson (signed to ESPN/Top Rank) and AJ(DAZN and Matchroom) who are locked in

AJ has the benefit of an entire region that loves Boxing enough to bypass their racism

DAZN is suspect to me because how many people really pay from the 2.4 million subscribers and where does the money for everything come from

If Im Wilder I'm fighting maybe four more years max getting ghost

Yeah Wilder wasn't tied down or locked in with anybody, the DAZN deal he was offered which he said was 120 mil was only for 3 fights though, 1 was for Breazeale who he was fighting anyway, he would have been given 20 mil for that and then the 2 AJ fights, the first fight and then the rematch which his team said they wanted a 2 way rematch clause, they had previously accepted a 1 way 1 they said. They even said he could have just done a deal for the 2 AJ fights if he didn't want to do the Breazeale fight there, so he wouldn't really be locked in for long, could just do those fights then bounce if he wanted and do whatever he wanted. ESPN on the other hand, they offered like a 5 fight deal, which would have tied him in to a long term situation. Tyson is locked in yeah, AJ isn't though, he's on a fight by fight basis, DAZN pretty much have first refusal if they match the money, they will be offering AJ a deal, but AJ and his team don't want to do anything which may obstruct some of the potential fights, but at some point that deal will likely happen.

The owners of DAZN are very wealthy, they are making an investment, as their platform grows it should become profitable, but they are going to have to speculate to accumulate, they are banking on streaming being the future and are trying to provide a depth of quality to offer people a cheaper alternative to the PPV system. I personally hope they do well, but I hope everyone does well as it's good for boxing and the fighters to have these options.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Yeah Wilder wasn't tied down or locked in with anybody, the DAZN deal he was offered which he said was 120 mil was only for 3 fights though, 1 was for Breazeale who he was fighting anyway, he would have been given 20 mil for that and then the 2 AJ fights, the first fight and then the rematch which his team said they wanted a 2 way rematch clause, they had previously accepted a 1 way 1 they said. They even said he could have just done a deal for the 2 AJ fights if he didn't want to do the Breazeale fight there, so he wouldn't really be locked in for long, could just do those fights then bounce if he wanted and do whatever he wanted. ESPN on the other hand, they offered like a 5 fight deal, which would have tied him in to a long term situation. Tyson is locked in yeah, AJ isn't though, he's on a fight by fight basis, DAZN pretty much have first refusal if they match the money, they will be offering AJ a deal, but AJ and his team don't want to do anything which may obstruct some of the potential fights, but at some point that deal will likely happen.

The owners of DAZN are very wealthy, they are making an investment, as their platform grows it should become profitable, but they are going to have to speculate to accumulate, they are banking on streaming being the future and are trying to provide a depth of quality to offer people a cheaper alternative to the PPV system. I personally hope they do well, but I hope everyone does well as it's good for boxing and the fighters to have these options.

DAZN doesn't have AJ under contract. They tried to bait him into fighting on DAZN with no guarantee of Joshua. Al and them peeped the game.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

It's delusional stanning to a sickening degree, these dudes can't be honest. It's always inconsistently moving the goalposts for Wilder and creating ridiculous narratives, like they get paid by how bigger star he is or some shyt, it's weird. I want Wilder to be as big a star as possible and the biggest draw possible, it's good for boxing, unfortunately he hasn't proven to be a huge draw yet and has a way to go. He could accelerate that dramatically if he actually takes the AJ fight and knocks him out, that would put him on top of the world and he really would be the worldwide superstar they claim he is now. He is big now, but they seem to be very delusional, he's not anywhere near what AJ is globally. Dude is 33 (34 this year) and done 1 PPV. It seems like they are scared to take the risk, but isn't that what sports supposed to be about? The best against the best to see who's the absolute best? Some are such cocksuckers it seems they don't want the fight that much just for the possibility they might lose, very weird, I want the fight, it would be MASSIVE for boxing, globally, it could help push forward a new golden era for the sport.

So, for the sake of the fight, he should abandon the brand that built him up to enrich some crackers? That fight can be made via PBC. However, that doesn’t matter because you believe everything them cacs tell you. Act like the gate won’t make money or cause a spike in subscriptions while retaining some subscribers and merchandise. That’s off one fight. A rematch would generate even more money and Wilder would miss all that on a lump sum that will be considered chump change at the end. Likely no rights to telecast.

What do we know.

 

[desjardins]

$10 vs $100 guaranteed?
40 mil per vs AJ for the clear B side ain't insulting to me
He runs the risk of losing leverage if he keeps fighting Breazile types or maybe even a AJ vs Fury fight locking him out.

 

[Black_Jesus]

$10 vs $100 guaranteed?
40 mil per vs AJ for the clear B side ain't insulting to me
He runs the risk of losing leverage if he keeps fighting Breazile types or maybe even a AJ vs Fury fight locking him out.

An AJ Fury fight dont lock shyt out

 

[The Ruler 09]

DAZN doesn't have AJ under contract. They tried to bait him into fighting on DAZN with no guarantee of Joshua. Al and them peeped the game.

This is bullshyt, this is the type of delusional dikkriding nonsense am speaking about, creating a false narrative with zero evidence, even Wilder's team said the AJ fight was included, so making shyt up contrary to what both sides said is ridiculous. It would have 100 percent included the 2 AJ fights, that was the primary reason for the deal in the first place.

 

[The Ruler 09]

So, for the sake of the fight, he should abandon the brand that built him up to enrich some crackers? That fight can be made via PBC. However, that doesn’t matter because you believe everything them cacs tell you. Act like the gate won’t make money or cause a spike in subscriptions while retaining some subscribers and merchandise. That’s off one fight. A rematch would generate even more money and Wilder would miss all that on a lump sum that will be considered chump change at the end. Likely no rights to telecast.

What do we know.

That cracker shyt don't apply because what is Shelly? All these motherfukkers got white people around them. From the talk coming from Shelly Fury vs Wilder will be on ESPN anyway and AJ vs Wilder will be on DAZN so none of that applies. It's not a reason to turn down the fight either no, because if he knocked him out and won all the belts he could then do what he wanted where he wanted, so it would make whoever he chooses to go with bigger. I deal with facts and evidence not soley believing what anybody says, these are the kind of weird illogical irrelevant cult like narratives some try to create that make no sense, both teams didn't differ on what they said about the offer, Wilder and his team both said they have no problem fighting on DAZN either, so these points are irrelevant when Wilder and his own team are saying that, why would they even meet with them anyway if they had no intention of doing a deal cause they "crackers", it's irrelevant and Wilder was gassed at the DAZN offer, just listen to the first Boxing Voice interview after it was known the offer was made, he was boasting about it and sounded very excited, Shelly and Al probably stepped in to sway him, he's pretty much said as much, so it wasn't about not wanting to fight on DAZN at all.

 

[The Ruler 09]

$10 vs $100 guaranteed?
40 mil per vs AJ for the clear B side ain't insulting to me
He runs the risk of losing leverage if he keeps fighting Breazile types or maybe even a AJ vs Fury fight locking him out.

Good points, if his numbers stay low, which they may do unless he fights 1 of the big guys then it won't help his cause, who's gonna pay to see Wilder vs Kownaci, won't be PPV and a lot of people still wouldn't even bother watching it. Not really competitive as Wilder should blast him away. Ortiz vs Wilder surely won't be PPV either, first 1 wasn't and fighting a guy he's already knocked out and who can't speak English so probably won't build the fight well either. Fury was perfect because they both talked shyt and built up the fight well, even then the fight sold what, 320 thousand? If AJ vs Fury happened that would be the biggest fight around, that should happen in the U.K though, would sell out 90 thousand stadium very quickly and would be huge. Would be the biggest fight in U.K boxing history. And 40-50 mil is a great offer considering his highest ever purse was 10 mil at best, he's getting 4 or 5 times as much.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

That cracker shyt don't apply because what is Shelly? All these motherfukkers got white people around them. From the talk coming from Shelly Fury vs Wilder will be on ESPN anyway and AJ vs Wilder will be on DAZN so none of that applies. It's not a reason to turn down the fight either no, because if he knocked him out and won all the belts he could then do what he wanted where he wanted, so it would make whoever he chooses to go with bigger. I deal with facts and evidence not soley believing what anybody says, these are the kind of weird illogical irrelevant cult like narratives some try to create that make no sense, both teams didn't differ on what they said about the offer, Wilder and his team both said they have no problem fighting on DAZN either, so these points are irrelevant when Wilder and his own team are saying that, why would they even meet with them anyway if they had no intention of doing a deal cause they "crackers", it's irrelevant and Wilder was gassed at the DAZN offer, just listen to the first Boxing Voice interview after it was known the offer was made, he was boasting about it and sounded very excited, Shelly and Al probably stepped in to sway him, he's pretty much said as much, so it wasn't about not wanting to fight on DAZN at all.

We’re both talking fiction because you provided no citations.

 

[malbaker86]

Also when you consider his biggest ever purse is 10 mil, turning down a deal including 120 mil is poor, especially considering he said previously how bad he wanted the fight and he would accept whatever, seems like a lot of talk in regards to that fight but not backing it up.

Nobody wants to pull Wilder's card about this. At first, hell last year, it was all "it ain't even about the money", now here we are a year later and he's talking about it needs to be 50/50 blah blah.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

This is bullshyt, this is the type of delusional dikkriding nonsense am speaking about, creating a false narrative with zero evidence, even Wilder's team said the AJ fight was included, so making shyt up contrary to what both sides said is ridiculous. It would have 100 percent included the 2 AJ fights, that was the primary reason for the deal in the first place.

This is false they tried to con PBC and failed

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Nobody wants to pull Wilder's card about this. At first, hell last year, it was all "it ain't even about the money", now here we are a year later and he's talking about it needs to be 50/50 blah blah.

Pull his card about what.
The Brit said GIVE HIM 50mil, YOU GOTTA FIGHT.
They get the money together, the brit falls back.
Them dudes are to blame

 

[malbaker86]

Pull his card about what.
The Brit said GIVE HIM 50mil, YOU GOTTA FIGHT.
They get the money together, the brit falls back.
Them dudes are to blame

I'm not talking about the $50 mill, im talking about when Wilder was saying it ain't about money. Now it's about money.