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Deontay Wilder Agrees To Face Anthony Joshua in the UK This Summer At A 60/40 Split
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GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
A) Don't believe the number just because someone "said so"
B) In a mega fight like this, if both fighters are not negotiating a split percentage, or flat fee + upside, it is a nonstarter.
Remember, rumors were Canelo offered GGG $15 million. Floyd offered Pacquiao a flat fee of $40 million. A flat fee always gets fans on the side of the one offering it. History and logic shows us to always be skeptical of that and to consider the entire financial impact of the fight. UK PPV, Europe PPV, US PPV, and all the other TV rights, 80k + fans in the UK, sponsors, etc...so many revenue streams and the potential that if the fight exceeds expectations sales wise that the flat fee fighter gets hurt incredibly.
Fact is Joshua needs to offer a fair split and wrap the fight up. It isn't that complicated. The GGG-Canelo fight wasn't that complicated to make and it became clearer as time went on that GB was dragging their feet in the end to build more hype. This doesn't feel the same because at least Canelo talked about GGG and kept making promises despite scheduling interim fights. No promises coming from Joshua yet...negotiating out of a fight is the same as a duck. Not saying Joshua is ducking yet, just that this fight is ready now and Joshua has a year or less to make it or else he should shoulder 100% of the blame.
A) Don't believe the number just because someone "said so"
B) In a mega fight like this, if both fighters are not negotiating a split percentage, or flat fee + upside, it is a nonstarter.
Remember, rumors were Canelo offered GGG $15 million. Floyd offered Pacquiao a flat fee of $40 million. A flat fee always gets fans on the side of the one offering it. History and logic shows us to always be skeptical of that and to consider the entire financial impact of the fight. UK PPV, Europe PPV, US PPV, and all the other TV rights, 80k + fans in the UK, sponsors, etc...so many revenue streams and the potential that if the fight exceeds expectations sales wise that the flat fee fighter gets hurt incredibly.
Fact is Joshua needs to offer a fair split and wrap the fight up. It isn't that complicated. The GGG-Canelo fight wasn't that complicated to make and it became clearer as time went on that GB was dragging their feet in the end to build more hype. This doesn't feel the same because at least Canelo talked about GGG and kept making promises despite scheduling interim fights. No promises coming from Joshua yet...negotiating out of a fight is the same as a duck. Not saying Joshua is ducking yet, just that this fight is ready now and Joshua has a year or less to make it or else he should shoulder 100% of the blame.
The offer is more than fair. I think people only see what's coming in and don't pay attention to the expenses associated with a fight of this magnitude. I've heard many people say "this a $100M fight" as if the two fighters are splitting $100M on a 60/40 split. And thats exactly the nonsense Finkle is spewing calling 12M pounds a 12% split. Floyd has shifted the thinking on this and got y'all confused. Floyd is wealthy and independent and could front the money needed. For instance....Floyd has his own jet. Wilder doesn't. How is the jet fuel, staff, maintenance, fly rate, etc around the states and across seas gonna get paid for? There are a boat load of expenses on the back end when it comes to putting on a fight, so realistically in a $100M fight after all the expenses, fees, salaries, camp incidentals, etc are paid for....lets say the fighters have close to $50M to chop up between them. You mean to tell me $18M is a lowball number? Especially when you just recently became a big enough attraction for your team to invest in taking you outside of Tuscaloosa for fights?
Dushane Hill
Superstar
This is exactly what I'm trying to say, the purse isn't gonna be $100M. The same guy saying dont believe the numbers because someone said so is the same guy believing numbers like 12 and 88.
$12 million wasnt a valid offer, which is why Team Joshua is still willing to negotiate after saying it was a "take it or leave it offer" originally.
Dushane Hill
Superstar
Basically putting to bed this magical $100M figure thats been conjured up out of thin air.
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
Wrong. We aren't believing any numbers. As @RGR_Newzz has told y'all, Joshua gave Parker a split and Parker isn't the draw or have the division status Wilder has.
The point is, no matter the number don't buy into a flat fee so easily. There is a reason the A side always wants to offer a flat fee so quickly, even if it seems like a lot.
If the fight isn't a $100 million fight (which I am not claiming to know any numbers) then why is 60/40 or somewhere thereabouts so difficult? If that actually netted Wilder less than the flat fee, why isn't Hearn offering It?
And the same as I said with GGG with Canelo, I am in favor of all mega fights being percentage splits. There is so much money that could be lost by a flat fee and the fact a fighter could be grossly overpaid and hurt future revenue streams if the fight bombs, let the fighters sell and be paid off these PPV fights based off of the events success.
That Good 510
Pro
If this fight takes place in the UK I doubt it’s gonna be on US PPV due to the time difference. So the pot takes a hit on that. But if they were really serious about maximizing profits this fight would be in Vegas.
A) Don't believe the number just because someone "said so"
B) In a mega fight like this, if both fighters are not negotiating a split percentage, or flat fee + upside, it is a nonstarter.
Remember, rumors were Canelo offered GGG $15 million. Floyd offered Pacquiao a flat fee of $40 million. A flat fee always gets fans on the side of the one offering it. History and logic shows us to always be skeptical of that and to consider the entire financial impact of the fight. UK PPV, Europe PPV, US PPV, and all the other TV rights, 80k + fans in the UK, sponsors, etc...so many revenue streams and the potential that if the fight exceeds expectations sales wise that the flat fee fighter gets hurt incredibly.
Fact is Joshua needs to offer a fair split and wrap the fight up. It isn't that complicated. The GGG-Canelo fight wasn't that complicated to make and it became clearer as time went on that GB was dragging their feet in the end to build more hype. This doesn't feel the same because at least Canelo talked about GGG and kept making promises despite scheduling interim fights. No promises coming from Joshua yet...negotiating out of a fight is the same as a duck. Not saying Joshua is ducking yet, just that this fight is ready now and Joshua has a year or less to make it or else he should shoulder 100% of the blame.
Dushane Hill
Superstar
$100 million dollar fight how? Neither fighter is a PPV draw in America. Joshua had 3 belts when he fought Parker now he has 4 and yet idiots are failing to comprehend that his value has gone up after earning an extra belt. Also if you want the fight to take place in America than the onus should be on the American side to make the offer.
The Infamous
Superstar
AJ's camp needs to end the bullshyt and meet at a 65-35 split.
Dushane Hill
Superstar
It was a 35/65 (roughly) split apparently. Joseph Parker only made £6M, Wilder got offered just over double that. AJ would only be getting around £25M. Plus in the contract was a clause where if he won Deontay would be able to DOUBLE that amount in the rematch.
Tbh if you're a Wilder fan and you're confident he's gonna win you should want him to sign based on those terms. I think Wilder is on signing that contract but the 3 people running his career are fukking things up for him.
Tbh if you're a Wilder fan and you're confident he's gonna win you should want him to sign based on those terms. I think Wilder is on signing that contract but the 3 people running his career are fukking things up for him.