Nothing illegal happened to allow the Republicans to stack the Supreme Court.
Democrats in House & Senate introduce bill to expand number of SCOTUS justices from 9 to 13
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The Democratic Party is so broken up in terms of ideology calling it "Partisan" is a falsehood. There's nothing partisan about the democratic party. Attempting to change the courts from hard right wing, back to center right isn't "partisan" in the slightest bit. It's the correct thing to do in order to make sure at the very least a small majority of the country gets representation. The ideology of the Supreme Court isn't representative of this country at all.
Most of those people are fukking freaks that couldn't even have a conversation with 80% of the people in this country. They shouldn't be allowed to make decisions on anything.
The GOP is an extremist party, the Democratic party is a chorus of voices that range from right to center left. Let's not treat each other like idiots here and toss around words like "partisan" when we 100% know that shyt doesn't apply to a party that consistently struggles to agree on even smallest shyt like increasing the minimum wage.
I don't believe it should be
I don't believe it should be political at all... imo it shouldnt matter who sits on the SC as long as they are qualified.
If congress wants to play with confirmations, ok... but crafting a politically pleasing court shouldnt be something congress engages in like this.
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I don't believe it should be
I don't believe it should be political at all... imo it shouldnt matter who sits on the SC as long as they are qualified.
If congress wants to play with confirmations, ok... but crafting a politically pleasing court shouldnt be something congress engages in like this.
Clarence Thomas, ACB, Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch aren't qualified. So either remove them or add 4 seats. There ya go.
Treating judges as if they don't have ideologies that they impose in their rulings is also how we got here. It's naïve to even consider treating them as if they're non partisan or non ideological. One of the judges tried to say racism wasn't a thing anymore which led to them neutering the VRA. That's about as hard right as it gets. All of it is political and people have to stop thinking as if it isnt.
In a perfect world, sure we'd agree. This aint a perfect world and racism especially structural racism is still very much a thing in this country and the courts do everything they can to keep in place.
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It’s pure fantasy to believe the Supreme Court isn’t just as political as the other branches. It always has been, and I’d say it’s even less Democratic than the Senate. It’s also gotten plenty of things wrong throughout its history so it’s not some infallible entity above reform.
Conservatives are only acting so indignant because it looks the way they want it to look after years of breaking every rule and norm they could, something they conveniently leave out of the conversation.
Conservatives are only acting so indignant because it looks the way they want it to look after years of breaking every rule and norm they could, something they conveniently leave out of the conversation.
ogc163
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Never going to happen, straight silly shyt.
The current conservative SC shytted on majority of the conservative bullshyt brought before it. Much of it from Trump the guy who nominated them.
This insinuation that the SC is political in the way congress is, and an ideologically balanced court is necessary to prevent judicial catastrophes isnt based in reality.
...moreover it’s not political in the way congress is, and we shouldn’t move it in that direction. Doing so reduces the check on power it provides.(which is probably what kind are really going for
)Who wants an ever expanding court, tailored to the party in control... just do away with it if that’s where we’re headed.
Obama’s gonna end America for Allah!!!
Orange hitler is going to start ww3!!!
The SC is broken!!!
Americans need to chill
Orange hitler is going to start ww3!!!
The SC is broken!!!
Americans need to chill
The Federalist Society was created to shift the entire U.S. judiciary, both state and federal, to the far-right.You would need the court to actually be broken and posing a threat to pass this.
More tax payer money wasted.
edit: the desire to make the SC framework a partisan shyt show is strong on the left
You know this already
Expanding the Court and electing far more even-handed justices is not necessarily "partisan structural change."
It also isn't necessarily "structural change" as the Court is going to function precisely the same way, just with more justices added.
The Court has been "political" since its exception. You would have to have no knowledge of the judiciary to believe otherwise.I don't believe it should be
I don't believe it should be political at all... imo it shouldnt matter who sits on the SC as long as they are qualified.
If congress wants to play with confirmations, ok... but crafting a politically pleasing court shouldnt be something congress engages in like this.
You realize that the Court has changed composition repeatedly over time?
Considering the SCOTUS has actively opposed Congressional bills that are plainly constitutional, has bootstrapped itself through completely judge-made dicta to restrict everything from labor rights to healthcare to Congress's ability to handle violence against women; and that the erosion has emanated from one organization working in-arms with a small cadre of special interests - it has been "broken" for decades.Obama’s gonna end America for Allah!!!
Orange hitler is going to start ww3!!!
The SC is broken!!!
Americans need to chill
If half the country views it as such, then it is for all intents and purposes.
Moreover, if it’ll function “precisely” the same, and has “been broken for decades” why this decisive policy push.
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Change is inevitable...
Same SC that said corporations are people, now say that social media companies (CORPORATIONS) need to be controlled
Same SC shytting on the VRA
FOH....it needs rebalancing, and de-c00ning
Same SC shytting on the VRA
FOH....it needs rebalancing, and de-c00ning
"Half the country" doesn't view it was such.If half the country views it as such, then it is for all intents and purposes.
Moreover, if it’ll function “precisely” the same, and has “been broken for decades” why this decisive policy push.
I daresay that the vast majority of the country has no conception of what the Supreme Court does, and are completely unaware of the shift in SCOTUS ideology.
It will continue to function as the final arbiter of cases involving federal law or within its original jurisdiction.
The last 20 years, particularly after the SCOTUS' erroneous decision in Bush v. Gore and subsequent Congressional infighting and refusal to honor unwritten rules regarding nominations - have accelerated the need for a return to some kind of balance.
It's the GOP's creation of the circumstances that necessitate this.
The current conservative SC shytted on majority of the conservative bullshyt brought before it. Much of it from Trump the guy who nominated them.
This insinuation that the SC is political in the way congress is, and an ideologically balanced court is necessary to prevent judicial catastrophes isnt based in reality.
...moreover it’s not political in the way congress is, and we shouldn’t move it in that direction. Doing so reduces the check on power it provides.(which is probably what kind are really going for
Who wants an ever expanding court, tailored to the party in control... just do away with it if that’s where we’re headed.
It might be political in a different way, sure, but it’s absolutely just as political as the other branches and we’ve had this exact conversation before. The history of SCOTUS is filled with politics and power-plays, literally dating back to when the court first asserted itself as having judicial review in Marbury.
@EndDomination said a lot of what I was gonna say already but here’s a recent article that will explain it in another way:
Opinion | The Supreme Court Is Making New Law in the Shadows
Seems like a problem. Where have you heard that they swatted down a majority of the conservative bullshyt during trump’s term? I’m gonna assume you’re not talking about those election cases.
And even if that’s true, I remember the times you praised Trump/McConnell for shifting the judiciary to the right. But now that shift doesn’t matter because they didn’t let trump get away with everything he wanted? So it’s cool for Congress to break the rules/norms as long as they don’t get away with every bullshyt case? Sounds quite political to me.
Justice Stephen Breyer warns against 'packing' Supreme Court
It might be political in a different way, sure, but it’s absolutely just as political as the other branches and we’ve had this exact conversation before. The history of SCOTUS is filled with politics and power-plays, literally dating back to when the court first asserted itself as having judicial review in Marbury.
@EndDomination said a lot of what I was gonna say already but here’s a recent article that will explain it in another way:
Opinion | The Supreme Court Is Making New Law in the Shadows
Seems like a problem. Where have you heard that they swatted down a majority of the conservative bullshyt during trump’s term? I’m gonna assume you’re not talking about those election cases.
And even if that’s true, I remember the times you praised Trump/McConnell for shifting the judiciary to the right. But now that shift doesn’t matter because they didn’t let trump get away with everything he wanted? So it’s cool for Congress to break the rules/norms as long as they don’t get away with every bullshyt case? Sounds quite political to me.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnew...rns-expanding-supreme-court/story?id=76921152
Liberal Justices oppose it and democrat members of congress oppose it, and the president has spoken out against for some of the same reasons I’ve mentioned...
It ain’t happening because it’s a bad idea that will likely have rippling effects it’s proponents can’t see...I think the posters in this thread who have stated all it will do is fire up the GoP for 2022 are correct.
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