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Trump has a cult who the fukk is josh shapiro?
You missed my point. The stuff Shapiro was being smeared with came from his party and none of it made him unelectable

Republicans would never publicly smear their own candidates over stuff that doesn’t matter
 

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You missed my point. The stuff Shapiro was being smeared with came from his party and none of it made him unelectable

Republicans would never publicly smear their own candidates over stuff that doesn’t matter
Democrats don't either most of the time the media does however, they're held to different standards haven't you noticed ?
 

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Everyone admits changes need to be made to the democratic coalition but this raises uncomfortable questions. If we know things have to go, then what needs to go? Who needs to go?

As we enter an age of racial depolarization I have some serious questions. What is the big tent going forward and how much further can we kick the can down the road?

As a black voter…black voters can’t really go anywhere and I think the connections between white liberals and black voters is solidified…

…but…I think a lot of other things are up for negotiation:

  • Is economic populism the main focus going forward? OK, I think thats in the tent.
  • Black voters can’t go anywhere. Republicans dont need their votes and democrats can’t win without them.
  • Arab Americans and muslim voters… how will this be addressed going forward? Are dems obligated to appease every foreign affair on the other side of the world when republicans have no obligation to pretend to appease them? What about how conservative muslim communities are as several communities supported republican book bans and sex education bans? or banned rainbow flags?
  • Jewish voters still are mostly supporting democrats while donors seem to be more aligned with conservatives. However in a Post-October-7th world, democrats seem to be stuck trying to juggle Arab/muslim voters against their commitments to Israel while republicans seem to make no qualms about standing for Israel against any appearance of concession to muslims. Whats going to be the choice?
  • Latino voters are clearly swing voters at this point and while we all know latino communities are comprised of numerous nationalities and backgrounds but the shifts away from democrats across all latino diasporas can’t be ignored. Whats the future of latino integration with democratic politics?
  • Are asian american voters still up for grabs?
  • Indian Americans are increasingly successful and still supporting democrats at relatively consistent numbers
  • With respect to gender identity issues…might have to have an uncomfortable convo about the salience and boundaries of how far democrats will stand for these issues. For example sports participation or gender affirming surgeries for prisoners that were crushing democratic candidates.
  • With respect to immigration activists, it seams universally that all sides are going to make a deal on this issue and that the pro illegal immigration crowd has lost a shrinking hand that will be settled on 47’s turf.
  • disaffected republicans (and some Neo-cons) seem to at least be willing to reassess their ties to the GOP in order to support democrats willing to challenge MAGA overreach
  • The unions seemed to get everything they wanted and their voters still rejected the democrats anyways
  • Culturally, what sort of appearance will democrats need? Is the age of celebrity endorsements dead?
  • Will we see a return of social conservatism and economic liberalism? Whats the right mix of communities?
  • Is the focus on reproductive freedom a detriment to democrats ability to appeal to conservative immigrant populations?



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That was just people looking for a reason to not get someone they thought would be pro Israel on the ticket. They would’ve overlooked that for someone they liked. It wasn’t in good faith.
So it won’t an issue in 2028? :whew:
 

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I'm seeing a lot of :mjpls: comments from the Bernie left side of the wing, they're saying biden/kamala focused too much on black folks after South Carolina and not Latinos. So my fba brothas might not get that they think from this.
 

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I'm seeing a lot of :mjpls: comments from the Bernie left side of the wing, they're saying biden/kamala focused too much on black folks after South Carolina and not Latinos. So my fba brothas might not get that they think from this.
I'm black and they did. SC is Trump country. Black people played a large part in why Kamala was the nominee. Enough. No more boule blacks who are only cool with the Atlanta mafia down south.
 

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Everyone admits changes need to be made to the democratic coalition but this raises uncomfortable questions. If we know things have to go, then what needs to go? Who needs to go?

As we enter an age of racial depolarization I have some serious questions. What is the big tent going forward and how much further can we kick the can down the road?

As a black voter…black voters can’t really go anywhere and I think the connections between white liberals and black voters is solidified…

…but…I think a lot of other things are up for negotiation:

  • Is economic populism the main focus going forward? OK, I think thats in the tent.
  • Black voters can’t go anywhere. Republicans dont need their votes and democrats can’t win without them.
  • Arab Americans and muslim voters… how will this be addressed going forward? Are dems obligated to appease every foreign affair on the other side of the world when republicans have no obligation to pretend to appease them? What about how conservative muslim communities are as several communities supported republican book bans and sex education bans? or banned rainbow flags?
  • Jewish voters still are mostly supporting democrats while donors seem to be more aligned with conservatives. However in a Post-October-7th world, democrats seem to be stuck trying to juggle Arab/muslim voters against their commitments to Israel while republicans seem to make no qualms about standing for Israel against any appearance of concession to muslims. Whats going to be the choice?
  • Latino voters are clearly swing voters at this point and while we all know latino communities are comprised of numerous nationalities and backgrounds but the shifts away from democrats across all latino diasporas can’t be ignored. Whats the future of latino integration with democratic politics?
  • Are asian american voters still up for grabs?
  • Indian Americans are increasingly successful and still supporting democrats at relatively consistent numbers
  • With respect to gender identity issues…might have to have an uncomfortable convo about the salience and boundaries of how far democrats will stand for these issues. For example sports participation or gender affirming surgeries for prisoners that were crushing democratic candidates.
  • With respect to immigration activists, it seams universally that all sides are going to make a deal on this issue and that the pro illegal immigration crowd has lost a shrinking hand that will be settled on 47’s turf.
  • disaffected republicans (and some Neo-cons) seem to at least be willing to reassess their ties to the GOP in order to support democrats willing to challenge MAGA overreach
  • The unions seemed to get everything they wanted and their voters still rejected the democrats anyways
  • Culturally, what sort of appearance will democrats need? Is the age of celebrity endorsements dead?
  • Will we see a return of social conservatism and economic liberalism? Whats the right mix of communities?
  • Is the focus on reproductive freedom a detriment to democrats ability to appeal to conservative immigrant populations?



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20 percent of black men went to Trump. That is a problem. Being the black and gay party won't work outside of the coast.

And speaking of the coast, at one party the party was entirely, NY, NJ, CA and MA. That needs to change.
 

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20 percent of black men went to Trump. That is a problem. Being the black and gay party won't work outside of the coast.

And speaking of the coast, at one party the party was entirely, NY, NJ, CA and MA. That needs to change.
they’ll come back to democrats. Trump is just a figure people want to gravitate towards. Thats not a republican movement.
 
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