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The chain of causality is off only because you’re interpreting my statement in a way to make your original assumption correction.

We both agree Israel acted in a way that helped Trump get back into office so my statement is objectively correct. You can read any subjectivity into my statement but then it would be your opinion and not fact
If all you had said was that Israel acted in a way that helped Trump get back in office then I wouldn't have taken issue with your statement. But you explicitly said Israel sealed its fate with millennial and younger voters by helping Trump get back in office, which fundamentally mistakes the motivations of this demographic. Under your logic, Israel would also be suffering massive drops in support from this demographic if they just engaged in some routine foreign election interference chicanery on behalf of Trump and not committed a widely broadcast genocide, and they wouldn't have suffered from massive drops in support before their electoral preferences were made clear during the election season. Both of which are wrong. I suspect you're promoting this position because you're still trying to downplay the role that the Biden-supported genocide of the Palestinians had on the this demographic's perspective towards the Democratic Party/President/ticket.
 

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I’d argue Trump was more responsible for the continuation of the conflict because he more than likely blocked Biden’s ceasefire efforts so that he could win the election
Biden was a victim of circumstance.
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Yes it’s an alternative narrative for how events played out after October 7th and doesn’t line up with the leftist orthodoxy but I’d argue it makes more logical sense.

Is Biden such a bloodthirsty animal that he was willing to sink his reelection chances for Palestinian blood?

Or

Was he checkmated by a Bibi-Trump alliance after October 7th and had to save face with realistically zero leverage.
 

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If all you had said was that Israel acted in a way that helped Trump get back in office then I wouldn't have taken issue with your statement. But you explicitly said Israel sealed its fate with millennial and younger voters by helping Trump get back in office, which fundamentally mistakes the motivations of this demographic. Under your logic, Israel would also be suffering massive drops in support from this demographic if they just engaged in some routine foreign election interference chicanery on behalf of Trump and not committed a widely broadcast genocide, and they wouldn't have suffered from massive drops in support before their electoral preferences were made clear during the election season. Both of which are wrong. I suspect you're promoting this position because you're still trying to downplay the role that the Biden-supported genocide of the Palestinians had on the this demographic's perspective towards the Democratic Party/President/ticket.
I am a millennial liberal that supports Israel even less (not that I ever really did) due to them helping Trump get back into office.

Objectively you’re wrong for saying that my statement is incorrect.

Not sure why you’re trying to argue semantics other than to shyt on Biden
 

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edit: not to mention Hakeem didn't even bother getting his caucus together to direct them NOT to censure all green,
heckling is one thing, but we're not gonna have it so anyone can stand up and yell for 2 minutes during the state of the union going forward, so the president can't even speak :yeshrug: Dems would have thrown someone out for doing that to Biden

dumb hill to die on
 

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heckling is one thing, but we're not gonna have it so anyone can stand up and yell for 2 minutes during the state of the union going forward, so the president can't even speak :yeshrug: Dems would have thrown someone out for doing that to Biden

dumb hill to die on
Trump went up there called Elizabeth Warren a racial slur gtfoh with this nonsense.

Show some decorum to the guy who's trying to dismantle social security and Medicare 🤓
 

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Trump went up there called Elizabeth Warren a racial value gtfoh with this nonsense.
:childplease: so the next time a Dem is president, marjorie taylor greene can stand up and yell at him for 2 minutes, and the Dem president should just sit there and let her? you can't be serious
 

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:childplease: so the next time a Dem is president, marjorie taylor greene can stand up and yell at him for 2 minutes, and the Dem president should just sit there and let her? you can't be serious
Wasn't al green kicked out? Marjorie Taylor green already did that and wasn't kicked out or REPRIMANDED by her own party you see the difference?

The fact that the lame ass aipac leader couldn't even get his votes together tells you everything
 

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bernie sanders is completely irrelevant to the 2026 and 2028 conversation. he's finished.

i don't see the point in talking about him :yeshrug:
I'm aware you said his style of politics isn't popular with non progressives. Seems you're wrong
 
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