Ironically only then will some of our Allstars says it’s okay to emerge from their basements to show up to protest
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Ironically only then will some of our Allstars says it’s okay to emerge from their basements to show up to protest
Remember folks, you can only critique people you voted for
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
this man can't even be the NYC a$$hole we all used to know from college. What a fukking dork.
This transgender shyt Nap is posting is getting annoying. I guarantee you in 4 years trans people existing will be the least of our worries.
It's the main culture war wedge that has teeth and the GQP is going to run it until they lose something but right now it's giving them the margins to win races. There's no win for the Dems on the issue. Voting against it won't help. Voting for it won't help. Abstention won't help.
As long as it resonates and people weigh it up there with the other things they supposedly care about like the economy they're going to keep voting anti trans + whatever.
I don't even know what George Soros looks like but there are people that still think he's a bigger threat than Elon. And Elon is actually controlling the policies of the sitting US president.
How do you get around things that have so markedly damaged your brand.
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
Crazy how fast Republicans bytch up once they face a little protesting.. who knew
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
The facts of the story here are that Republican/MAGA voters are showing up to these town halls and criticizing the Republican/MAGA politicians that they voted for. Every news story about this centers that fact because it's crucial to the efficacy of the story. These Republicans don't care about critiques from leftists. If AOC and a bunch of leftists were the ones showing up and criticizing, they wouldn't be bytching up, they would be emboldened and weaponize it to show to their voters that they're doing the right thing because the enemy of my enemy. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be protested by leftists, it just means that it's not going to be maximally effective in changing the minds of either these Republican/MAGA politicians or their voters. Just imagine if some right wing anti-abortion or gun rights activists show up to an AOC protest. She's not going to bytch up and change course because they don't represent her ideology or her voter base.
What Tim Walz and Ro Khanna are suggesting is the correct course from the Democrats. Show up and present an actual political alternative to these newly disappointed voters, not just doing ineffective protests of a known enemy. It's not enough for Democrats to say "these are bad guys!" they have to say "this is why we'd be better for you!". The game is to win the voters over to your political program.
ALTRUISM
"My enemy is a notion, not a nation."
I'll believe it when I see it when it comes to these momentary "protests" from Republican voters. In about a month or so, they'll adjust, have convenient amnesia, and act like losing their medicaid, benefits, and other government safety nets is unironically okay with them so long as the "others" are suffering just as much, if not more. The 2017 tax break and other restrictive nonsense pushed in their states should've been shown them that Repubs don't give a fukk about them, but they overwhelmingly voted for Trump and them anyway.
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
How do you know it’s only MAGA/Republican voters showing up to protest?
And your AOC analogy isn’t a fair comparison, these people are showing up because Republicans are materially making their life worse, it’s a non-partisan issue
You have to sign a paper that says you promise you are a lifelong republican before you enter the town halls.
These guys are jumping through hoops like it’s seaworld to avoid holding republicans accountable
mods yall are the merrick garland of the forum, if yall would have banned all these guys we could have avoided the worst week in this places history
the cac mamba
Veteran
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
Assuming we're talking about these town halls, they're not really being protested so much as Republicans running away from disgruntled constituents. The most prominent examples have all been constituents themselves explicitly mentioning they're Trump voters so they don't get dismissed out of hand by their Republican rep.
It doesn't matter why they're showing up, it matters who they are and what community they represent. Republican reps aren't showing up to local DSA meetings even though those members are still their constituents. Politics is gerrymandered precisely so politicians on both sides don't have to encounter constituents on the opposite end of the spectrum. If the local VFW shows up to a Republican event and registers their discontent with x policy/result, it doesn't really matter to the politician what x is, what matters to that a loyal, bedrock constituency group is not happy. Same way if Planned Parenthood showed up to register discontent at an AOC event or SEIU shows up to register discontent at a Bernie event. If AOC or Bernie get protested by the NRA, it doesn't matter what the specific issue is because that's not a relevant constituency group for their political program.
Yes, the Republicans/MAGA voters registering discontent at Republican town halls are complaining about their lives being made materially worse, but if you replace them with DSA complaining about the same thing then the Republicans reps aren't going to care and it would be a non-story because they were never going to get their vote anyway.
the cac mamba
Veteran
it's not the actual issue that pisses people off. it's the disrespect being shown to voters
democrats are wrong. scientifically, morally, politically, you name it. they're just fukking wrong. so for them to not only aggressively triple down on their hatred of women, but also accuse a man who doesn't want boys playing sports with his daughters of "bigotry", is fukking insulting. and it's like Nap says; if you're talking to a flat earther, you don't listen past the flat earth nonsense. you just stop taking them seriously at that point
this is the kind of shyt that makes people dislike liberals; the elitist, condescending culture bullshyt. it's not the issue that's the problem here; it's the damage to the Democrat brand
and the shyt is getting exponentially worse. does anyone think trehs are gonna be making less ridiculous demands by 2028? or worse?
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
Anyone can show up at the town hall. They don’t check your voting records before you’re allowed entry.
Some (not all) of those Gaza protestors who showed up at Dem rallies either voted for Trump or they were paid agitators by the Trump campaign. Regardless of their underlying intentions they were effective at amplifying the discontent.
No one is saying to show up with a rainbow flag draped around you or wear a DSA rose shirt, or a democrat donkey hat, they aren’t going to know who you voted for
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
Not an effective counter attack because there are real Republicans protesting and that type of messaging will just amplify their rage.