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Just makes the Republicans look bad. We’ve done this song and dance repeatedly already.
Debt Ceiling: McConnell & GOP make deal to avoid filibuster, Dems pass raise till 2023
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...it provides a good opportunity for us to periodically revisit the debt and debate the appropriate level of government spending and its consequential impact on the national debtWhy would you keep it?
Its a form of accountability... which i believe is grossly lacking in Washington on both sides of the isle.
The ceiling has to be raised... thats not up for debate.
... but scrapping it because Dems are bad politicians and easily out maneuvered by rethugs is childish to me.
I dont expect my take to be popular on a liberal board. Abolish fiscal checks and borrow/print away! 
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If everyone knows the debt ceiling has to be raised or you'll destroy the American economy, then there's no point in having it.
If it's only gonna get used as a bullshyt hostage tactic, for partisan concerns, then there's no point having it.
There's an omnibus bill every year. Debate the appropriate level of government then. If you can't come to an agreement, then furloughs for everybody until you can.
MMT isn't bad. We borrow and print away as it is. There's no stopping that, no matter who's in power. If the GOP holds the House, Senate, and White House, fiscal checks are out the window, as they've shown with Bush and Trump. In terms of childish takes, yours was a bad one. 
If it's only gonna get used as a bullshyt hostage tactic, for partisan concerns, then there's no point having it.
There's an omnibus bill every year. Debate the appropriate level of government then. If you can't come to an agreement, then furloughs for everybody until you can.
MMT isn't bad.
We borrow and print away as it is. There's no stopping that, no matter who's in power. If the GOP holds the House, Senate, and White House, fiscal checks are out the window, as they've shown with Bush and Trump. In terms of childish takes, yours was a bad one. 
...it provides a good opportunity for us to periodically revisit the debt and debate the appropriate level of government spending and its consequential impact on the national debt
Its a form of accountability... which i believe is grossly lacking in Washington on both sides of the isle.
The ceiling has to be raised... thats not up for debate.
... but scrapping it because Dems are bad politicians and easily out maneuvered by rethugs is childish to me.
Saying MMT is just printing money really shows ignorance of what it diagnoses. Also acting as if the federal government is borrowing money as if we're on a gold standard is quite ignorant.
Exactly who do we borrow money from when we deficit spend? "Our children and grandchildren" is not a serious answer.
MMT isnt a policy. It doesnt say you can just print enough money to create medicare for all, green new deal ect. It's just diagnosis as to how the economy works. Like showing that decades of blowing out the federal debt with lower and lower unemployment hasnt lead to widespread and runaway inflation like the Chicago School Libertarian economist predicted it would.If everyone knows the debt ceiling has to be raised or you'll destroy the American economy, then there's no point in having it.
If it's only gonna get used as a bullshyt hostage tactic, for partisan concerns, then there's no point having it.
There's an omnibus bill every year. Debate the appropriate level of government then. If you can't come to an agreement, then furloughs for everybody until you can.
MMT isn't bad.
That's really all it is.
Then those on the left have correctly made the point that the beneficiaries of the deficit spending have almost exclusively gone to the top 1% and use MMT to develop ways to shift some of that benefit to the middle class and those under the poverty line
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I was adding onto/ supporting your comments, not refuting them.Why did you quote me like I said the opposite of those things?
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Notice you side stepped the question ...All this to say :mjyeahgif:
Like i said fiscally liberal board.
future generations.Notice you side stepped the question ...
Dont even have to eliminate it. Just make those lazy a$$holes show up and speak for 24 hoursEliminate the filibuster