Dean Ambrose Keeps It Real About Te Current Wrestlers

[El_Mero_Mero]

Not sure if Dean was talking about Orton. We all know Randy is boring (although his heel moments are some of my fave), but I don't know if it can be said that he didn't grow up loving the business. He's 3rd generation so he probably loved it, but may have fell out of love with it over time.

 

[stro]

It's somewhat ironic that Dean is the one saying this considering there's almost no one that has looked like they were just there to cash checks and put in the least amount of effort possible more than him over the past few years. It's also always been a dumb argument because many of the greats weren't particularly big fans as kids or at all and only got into wrestling because they weren't good enough for real pro sports or were and got into wrestling after injuries or they couldn't hang anymore. In fact, that was the majority of the industry for like....60 years.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

It's somewhat ironic that Dean is the one saying this considering there's almost no one that has looked like they were just there to cash checks and put in the least amount of effort possible more than him over the past few years. It's also always been a dumb argument because many of the greats weren't particularly big fans as kids or at all and only got into wrestling because they weren't good enough for real pro sports or were and got into wrestling after injuries or they couldn't hang anymore. In fact, that was the majority of the industry for like....60 years.

You don't necessarily have to idolize guys growing up in the business, but I don't think there's a single reason to feel like Austin, Rock, HBK, Bret, or Undertaker didn't love the business.

 

[stro]

You don't necessarily have to idolize guys growing up in the business, but I don't think there's a single reason to feel like Austin, Rock, HBK, Bret, or Undertaker didn't love the business.

Go back a generation and most of those guys were just in it to make some money. If they developed a love for it, that's great. Most got into it because they were athletes who weren't athletic enough to go pro in any of their chosen fields, or because they were big and strong and someone said "hey you should be a wrestler". The vast majority of big names from the 80s and before didn't get into it because they loved it as a kid. It wasn't an issue for literally decades.

 

[Straw Hat Luffy]

@ Brock

We still doing this Brock doesn't care about his craft shyt?

 

[Green Ranger]

Maybe but the writing and micro managing sucks. Roman got overpushed way, way too far. Cena too. Blandy too.

Guys and girls show more personality on IG, Twitter clapbacks, Radio and Podcast interview and YouTube then they do on WWE TV there a disconnect. They write everything word for word for these guys and girls and the wording they have them say isn’t them talking and you can clearly tell when you read or watch these guys and girls do other things.

Ambrose talking about guys not even watching wrestling or caring about the business
That could be said not just for the wrestlers but for the creative team as well
A lot of them are failed tv/soap opera/Hollywood writer that really either didn’t watch wrestling at all or stopped watching after a certain age

Plus honest this is what happen when you hire a whole bunch of models and guys from other athletic fields. They don’t really have the same respect/love for the business. They are in wrestling because they wasn’t good enough to play NFL football or they sucked at MMA or Boxing or other sports. Wrestling was a fall back plan not something they wanted to do since they was little it wasn’t there dream

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Go back a generation and most of those guys were just in it to make some money. If they developed a love for it, that's great. Most got into it because they were athletes who weren't athletic enough to go pro in any of their chosen fields, or because they were big and strong and someone said "hey you should be a wrestler". The vast majority of big names from the 80s and before didn't get into it because they loved it as a kid. It wasn't an issue for literally decades.

And there it is.

 

[reigun]

Pretty much. This is basically what happened to Zack Ryder and Dolph Ziggler. Both those dudes loved the business, but the WWE did everything they could to kill off their passion. You can 100% see that in Dolph Ziggler, and it was very apparent in CM Punk's last run when he was an out of shape unmotivated face.

Zack Ryder was tragic because, like, everyone knew he had a ceiling. No one was asking for him to be WWE Champion (no one sane, anyway). People just wanted him to be used more often in the midcard, and WWE killed him anyway. I can't imagine what that does to a guy: to already be selling yourself short only to be told you're not even worth that.

Then you think about what message that sends to the locker room. If a guy just trying to win the US title or some shyt can't even get that, or gets it and has it stripped from him in short order, why try? Sit in catering, play some Tekken, and collect your check. At least you're getting to travel.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Pretty much. This is basically what happened to Zack Ryder and Dolph Ziggler. Both those dudes loved the business, but the WWE did everything they could to kill off their passion. You can 100% see that in Dolph Ziggler, and it was very apparent in CM Punk's last run when he was an out of shape unmotivated face.

This made it so much easier to tune out. The way Ziggler and Sasha so clearly don’t care anymore since they’ve realized that no amount of hard work or results they bring will ever be rewarded makes it hard as a fan to think that the company cares about anything. I feel bad for these guys. If it’s like this for us as fans, imagine how mad they all must be. Punk was the worst example. He was so disinterested and clearly miserable from wrestlemania 29 onward that he was practically daring them to fire him on air. To see him go from where he was in mid 2011 to where he was not even 2 years later was .

To answer a question from earlier in the thread, what the sport needs is people who have passion for it like a guy like punk had, but who know their worth like punk, Brock, or Austin where if management books them like shyt that they’re willing to leave on short notice. The McMahon family needs their feet held to the fire 24/7 or their effort level ends up being embarrassing even compared to Albert Haynesworth in Washington or Rasheed Wallace in Boston.