DC's "Black Adam" (Oct. 21, 2022)

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

I feel you.... we all feel you..... but I would like to give you some perspective and just think about this for a bit too.

These threads get derailed in SO many ways. Not all the time its solely just a Marvel guy (really most cases just a casual breh) coming in and saying "Marvel this great, DC that trash"

Sometimes another form of DC thread derailing is when someone maybe makes a blanket statement and for the most part yall either no sell it or after a few words just get back on topic. But then one of your more "radical" DC brehs comes back in and sets a match to a diffused fire and for the next 8-10 post/pages going on a rant about;

"These Marvel Stans this, that drizzle that" "MARVEL MARVEL MARVEL"

(While you guy are back on topic cuz whatever other issue had been resolved but they still)

"Well atleast the villain aint like Marvel villain" "Marvel this Marvel That" "These Marvel stans, {insert repeated shot at Marvel movie no one even brought up}"

(And again yall still having a peaceful discussion about whatever the thread topic is... but)

"These Marvel stans this.... Marvel makes me mad, You Marvel stans" (mind you for maybe 2-3 pages not one Marvel stan really said shyt or said shyt that bad to set it off like that) "Marvel stans this" (then another guy comes in here blowing wind on the flame not even knowing whats going on)

"Damn these Marvel guys at it again? Same blah blah blah {insert personal attack and disrespect}"

That is also a form of thread derailing cuz again while yall are trynna peacefully discuss and maybe ignore the disturbance, then some of your own comes in with so much fervor and starts attacking with all this vitriol and then takes it to personal attacks! Yes it gets that serious, cuz most times the beef starts with maybe a joke toward the product that yall love but then your own peeps take it to a personal level and respond with disrespectful personal attacks and contribute nothing more to the discussion other then go out they way to bash and keep the fire burning.

Thats why its sometime kinda laughable when (not you) cats that relate sit here and point fingers at others but never monitor or check your own peeps thats a HUGE part of the problem.

Me, @wire28 @jayshiggs @Norrin Radd @Ironman @BXKingPin82 and a few others do have a system of checks and balances and believe it or not WE DO govern our own. Theres been PLENTY of time we tell one of our own to reel it back in or chill and we for the most part NEVER take it (initiate) to personal levels and start calling the DC brehs bytches or whining and trynna get folks banned.... hell we never even called that for Yo Yo when that nicca was going full mental last year from early spring to day 8 of SS dropping 3+ Anti Marvel threads a day and constantly upping. (which its kinda funny how DC brehs had no problem with that).

Just please respectfully take that into consideration as well.

But back on topic...... I wonder when they do Shazaam, how are they gonna play that? Cuz he's really the only character thats gonna need to a degree TWO actors to portray the hero and the kid.

So contractually do you give them similar money? Also screen time, how do you split it between them? Say down the line one decides to leave, how does that work for the other? The creation of that movie is going to be extremely intriguing to me, also the choice of casting.

You could have just said Marvel knows how to make coherent movies without needing 3 hours and D.C. can't

 

[lutha]

Off topic but who wld win black Adam or darkseid

darkseid, no contest...he's a god for the most part.....

 

[lutha]

Na.... that place is a corpse of what it used to be..... but its all good..... "we" planning on making Making Arcadium Great Again

#MAGA

Spoiler

But speaking of thoughtful conversation,

how you think that Shazaam/Billy casting will play out? And how will they break that movie up?

yea, they'd have to cast a kid and an adult, but you dont give them equal money....i say that cause for the most part, we're gonna see the adult more on screen, with the kid's inner thoughts, voice, etc...i do think we'll see more of the kid on screen in shazam movies, to show him doing everyday kinda stuff, adjusting to having powers, etc....

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

I honestly have no idea who they'd go with for billy. @Ed MOTHERfukkING G would be better to answer that cause I'm sure he's throught about it

The kid will be an unknown teen actor and Shazam will be someone like jonn Hamm or even john Cena . The screen time will be almost equal maybe they'll do a iron man where they show the kid reacting to Shazam

yea, they'd have to cast a kid and an adult, but you dont give them equal money....i say that cause for the most part, we're gonna see the adult more on screen, with the kid's inner thoughts, voice, etc...i do think we'll see more of the kid on screen in shazam movies, to show him doing everyday kinda stuff, adjusting to having powers, etc....

which is the reason i think they went the Black Adam/Rock route before they lost the rights {i assume}
they have absolutely no clue for Shazam let alone Billy they need to get this Rock thing going before he backs out, people loose interest or the rights are gone

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

You could have just said Marvel knows how to make coherent movies without needing 3 hours and D.C. can't

i think Marvels biggest advantage in all this is that Marvel owns mostly all their characters .. majority all created by Stan Lee.. so only 1 face to get an OK from

DC has all these 3rd and 4th parties to consult and get rights from... and nobody wants their creation to get chumped...

even in the actual comics the cross overs are done different..marvels characters all interacted with each other in a way so they had stories to pull from.. besides JSA and Teen Titans .... DC characters havent had as many Oh Shyt crossover stories

 

[Bryan Danielson]

i think Marvels biggest advantage in all this is that Marvel owns mostly all their characters .. majority all created by Stan Lee.. so only 1 face to get an OK from

DC has all these 3rd and 4th parties to consult and get rights from... and nobody wants their creation to get chumped...

Actually.... I think thats the other way around friend. DC is owned by WB right? And WB owns all the DC property


Moving back along to the Shazaam/Billy thing

yea, they'd have to cast a kid and an adult, but you dont give them equal money....i say that cause for the most part, we're gonna see the adult more on screen, with the kid's inner thoughts, voice, etc...i do think we'll see more of the kid on screen in shazam movies, to show him doing everyday kinda stuff, adjusting to having powers, etc....

I can seen it being heavy on the everyday kid stuff and early in the movie and then near the end just mainly Shazaam as he has to fight against some type of conflict. The scary part about the sharing of screen time is, if they go the origin route, how fast will it get to them transitioning to him getting the powers?

They definitely gotta be delicate with how they do that, cuz this for so many reasons cant be one of them movies were the hero dont even put the suit on per say till like 1hr 15 mins in. At the same time you dont wanna rush it is where he's Shazaam in 5 mins. I would say they probably be best not even tell the origin in order just start it with who he is and just tell us via the sprinkling of flashbacks

 

[Wargames]

In a lot of ways this is like a scorpion King redux (IE the bad guy being split into his own property) but with better source material. A good argument could be made that if the film succeeds to just ignore a Shazam movie for the time being and add to Black Adam's film history. Maybe make him the big bad for a future JLA movie and introduce Shazam then before doing a Shazam movie.

 

[lutha]

which is the reason i think they went the Black Adam/Rock route before they lost the rights {i assume}
they have absolutely no clue for Shazam let alone Billy they need to get this Rock thing going before he backs out, people loose interest or the rights are gone

yea, you can tell they have no idea what they wanna do with Shazam, so doing a black adam movie first is the best idea....also, i'm still hoping they show him in one way or another in the jl movie....

 

[lutha]

Actually.... I think thats the other way around friend. DC is owned by WB right? And WB owns all the DC property


Moving back along to the Shazaam/Billy thing




I can seen it being heavy on the everyday kid stuff and early in the movie and then near the end just mainly Shazaam as he has to fight against some type of conflict. The scary part about the sharing of screen time is, if they go the origin route, how fast will it get to them transitioning to him getting the powers?

They definitely gotta be delicate with how they do that, cuz this for so many reasons cant be one of them movies were the hero dont even put the suit on per say till like 1hr 15 mins in. At the same time you dont wanna rush it is where he's Shazaam in 5 mins. I would say they probably be best not even tell the origin in order just start it with who he is and just tell us via the sprinkling of flashbacks

i think he talking about the character creators, not the movie studios...you're right as far as movie studios: WB owns all of DC shyt

as for shazam/billy:

i like the idea others have said in here....have the black adam movie be a retelling of black adam's story from the wizard, and at the end, we find out he's telling it to billy and have billy say 'shazam', then fade to black...that way we already know billy has accepted the powers and dont have to worry about the very thing you mentioned: when to transition to him getting the powers....so in the shazam movie, it can focus on him being a kid and adjusting to having powers...and towards the end, it's gonna be mostly him as capt marvel...like i expect it to be mostly capt marvel in the jl movies and any movies not named shazam...that's why the casting of adult billy/capt marvel is more important to me than him as a kid.....the kid just needs to have a good voice lol.....

 

[23Barrettcity]

i think Marvels biggest advantage in all this is that Marvel owns mostly all their characters .. majority all created by Stan Lee.. so only 1 face to get an OK from

DC has all these 3rd and 4th parties to consult and get rights from... and nobody wants their creation to get chumped...

even in the actual comics the cross overs are done different..marvels characters all interacted with each other in a way so they had stories to pull from.. besides JSA and Teen Titans .... DC characters havent had as many Oh Shyt crossover stories

Huh I'm tempted to respond but I don't want to derail the thread. I think it's more the studio was waiting for thr rock to make time for the movie as I highly doubt they'll try and replace him .

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Actually.... I think thats the other way around friend. DC is owned by WB right? And WB owns all the DC property


Moving back along to the Shazaam/Billy thing




I can seen it being heavy on the everyday kid stuff and early in the movie and then near the end just mainly Shazaam as he has to fight against some type of conflict. The scary part about the sharing of screen time is, if they go the origin route, how fast will it get to them transitioning to him getting the powers?

They definitely gotta be delicate with how they do that, cuz this for so many reasons cant be one of them movies were the hero dont even put the suit on per say till like 1hr 15 mins in. At the same time you dont wanna rush it is where he's Shazaam in 5 mins. I would say they probably be best not even tell the origin in order just start it with who he is and just tell us via the sprinkling of flashbacks

true.. WB owns all DC but I was talking creators..
They still sometimes put their noses in things.. look at Smallville, milestone comics as examples..

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Huh I'm tempted to respond but I don't want to derail the thread. I think it's more the studio was waiting for thr rock to make time for the movie as I highly doubt they'll try and replace him .

I was saying they want to get it done will the rock is popping ... He has time for it. He been promoting it for a year so he's down.. I was saying if it takes to long he might not have time or just loose interest..

 

[Still FloW]

Actually.... I think thats the other way around friend. DC is owned by WB right? And WB owns all the DC property


Moving back along to the Shazaam/Billy thing




I can seen it being heavy on the everyday kid stuff and early in the movie and then near the end just mainly Shazaam as he has to fight against some type of conflict. The scary part about the sharing of screen time is, if they go the origin route, how fast will it get to them transitioning to him getting the powers?

They definitely gotta be delicate with how they do that, cuz this for so many reasons cant be one of them movies were the hero dont even put the suit on per say till like 1hr 15 mins in. At the same time you dont wanna rush it is where he's Shazaam in 5 mins. I would say they probably be best not even tell the origin in order just start it with who he is and just tell us via the sprinkling of flashbacks

ala Dr. Strange

but i dont want it to happen too early on, feel like Strange getting his powers was a tad bit rushed.. we didnt get to simmer in him as Stephen enough but it worked..

so im guessing going that route might be best, show enough of him as a kid so we know he's a goof but not too long that it gets boring...

 

[CookisaCac]

You could have just said Marvel knows how to make coherent movies without needing 3 hours and D.C. can't

I know you're being a stupid ass but Civil War is barely shorter than these "3 hour" dc movies. and I know you mainly meant BvS which actually had an original run time of 2 and a half hours

 

[Ironman]

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