Dc GoGo music, a very influential strand of Funk and the deliverer of "Bounce" to modern music

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for an influential as it is, most don't realize just how influential it has been. It influenced 80s hiphop, r&B (New jack swing) and countless styles of southern music by bringing the "bounce" element

the actual groove is from black church music but w/o the congas

Spoken like a true godfather, one who turns 67 in August and apparently has no plans to slow down. The future includes more go-go, of course, but also albums focused on jazz and gospel.

"I grew up in the church, used to sing in the choir when I was about 7 years old," Brown says. "After prison, I went back home and went back to the church. The same beat that I used on 'Bustin' Loose,' that Grover Washington thing from 'Mr. Magic,' that was an old church beat back in the '30s and '40s. It was real fast then and people would jump and shout off that beat. That's the beat that I incorporated into the go-go." One gospel track, "Can't Nobody Do Me Like Jesus," recorded a few years ago with Pastor Luke Mitchell at New Mount Olive Baptist Church, will be on Brown's next go-go album.



Chuck Brown: Bustin' Loose, Again
 

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GoGo made it's biggest impact in the south...lt played a big role in miami bass, new orleans bounce, atl crunk and trap but you almost never hear anyone bring it up


Go-Go Bites: Country Cousins

Taking a different approach to this series, I wanted to look at the less obvious influence of go-go, rather than direct and blatant biting. Yesterday I ran an old interview with Miami bass legend and 2 Live Crew godfather Luther Campbell on my own site. At some point our conversation shifted to D.C. and its music:


[W]hen I was a rough kid my mom sent me to stay in DC, I stayed in Oxon Hill with my brother... Man, Rare Essence, Chuck Brown, that was my thing. I used to go to a lot of the go-go shows at The Armory and when they used to have it at the Cap Center I’d be there. That’s really where I got a lot of call and response from. I was a DJ and I did call and response, but I never [knew] how to apply it on a record. So when I did spend my time up there, I would go to these shows and I would see Chuck Brown up there and Rare Essence and I would see the battles. Because back then, they would be battling and shyt, they would be getting down, it’d be like battle of the bands. So I heard that and I kind of applied a lot of that into me as an artist. Keeping the party started, coming up with different call and responses. I learned a lot from go-go music.

This is not an uncommon sentiment. I've dedicated a large chunk of my life to phone conversations with old school Southern hip-hop artists and it's surprising how many of them, often tipped off by a 202 area code, start reminiscing about go-go music and whatever tenuous connections led them to it in the '80s. New Orleans bounce godfather DJ Jimi mentioned discovering the genre while living in P.G. County, Geto Boys DJ Ready Red (a N.J. transplant who had his biggest impact in Houston) used to cop go-go 12-inches through an uncle in Silver Spring. (Another short term Geto Boy, Big Mike, once reminisced on "jamming that Trouble Funk" at New Orleans block parties with "Southern Thang.")


Quiet as kept, those early D.C. jams went big throughout the South. While not technically being hip-hop, go-go was in a sense one of the earliest branches of "regional rap" to pop up. And in a lot of ways it provided the blueprint for what would the South would turn into an international industry in the years that followed—-the heavy call-and-response factor that Luke mentions, the local specificity of it all, the aspect of black-owned labels. Echos of these trends could be heard throughout bounce, bass, and crunk music. And sure, similar things were happening in the early days of New York hip-hop as well, but that as that city began to move toward a more lyrical and cerebral focus, it was D.C.'s formula that helped keep the party going in the rest of the country.

Go-Go Bites: Country Cousins


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The quality that gogo brought was the "Bounce" element. The motion that one responds to the bounce with is more a bouncing/riding/grooving type rather than an actual dance. Doug Fresh describes this feel below when he talks about his earliest experiences with gogo music in DC



just how they describe new orleans bounce dancing

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baby from cashomey compares the essence of bounce to dc gogo for a reason


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to add some more context

Well shyt :dwillhuh::ohhh: The more you know.

This might also explain why GoGo and New Orleans Bounce are kinda like cousins. Hell DMV girls be going hard asf on an NO Bounce beat as they do on a GoGo beat, especially some of Big Freedia’s joints.


exactly. Bounce = gogo + drag rap + new orleans brass band music
















Yooooo, now it all makes sense :gladbron:

These genres are legit cousins :banderas:

This is dope asf breh! Reps coming your way.
 

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So basically this "bounce" feel is part of the essence of funk(yness) that you hear in almost all southern hiphop and it's pretty much related to the Go Go-Funk, feel as I explained in another thread

when we say there's no funk in modern hip hop, it's really how danceless shyt has become. Compared to something like this.

I don't care how old you are. If you're Black and have any sense of rhythm, this shyt WILL get you moving, especially toward the end when Tip gives the beat that extra knock to it (from 3:30 forward)



there are different kinds of funk(yness) for different types of dance. You have head nodding, bounce, layed back, fast moving (new jack swing type funk). David Banner explains it perfectly right here



as does Dougie Fresh right here (gogo funk which directly influenced bounce music, miami bass, crunk and trap)



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that ties into something else from another thread


Why didnt House Music develop the South?

@IllmaticDelta you should do a thread on go go from its funk roots to its influence on other subgenres :ehh:

I was thinking about making a thread on different types of rhythmic motions that funk brings out depending on the groove because too many people think of funk(yness) as the fast breakbeat variety that makes one dance like



or even the slower groove dances like



without acknowledging the "bounce" grooves of gogo funk (southern funky new orleans/hbcu brass bands too) or the more head nodding variety of synth-funk or slow breakbeats (funky drumming). In the thread I was going to bring up gogo funk and how it relates to "bounce" and modern hiphop styles that come from the south.
 

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Subs. This should be a lit thread and hopefully gains traction.

Also, it’s interesting to know that Hip Hop dabbled in many experimentations with GoGo music back in the ‘80s when come the early to mid ‘00s, R&B was doing that too...Most notably Crazy In Love by Beyoncé (a track originally meant for Amerie), 1 Thing by Amerie, It’s Love by Jill Scott, etc.
 

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I never could get into GoGo unless it was a Hurby Luvbug produced song back when he added a lot of GoGo flavor to his beats

Just GoGo by itself I wasn't feeling it. I remember riding through D.C. In the late 80's/early 90's with family looking for a good radio station to jam.... all I heard was constant GoGo.
I lliterally had the :francis: face.


Now that I'm older I wanna give it another chance. Any suggestions?
 

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I never could get into GoGo unless it was a Hurby Luvbug produced song back when he added a lot of GoGo flavor to his beats

Just GoGo by itself I wasn't feeling it. I remember riding through D.C. In the late 80's/early 90's with family looking for a good radio station to jam.... all I heard was constant GoGo.
I lliterally had the :francis: face.


Now that I'm older I wanna give it another chance. Any suggestions?
Go go been dead for a while. I can drop some classic shyt for you if you want
 

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When I arrived in DC in the early 90's I HATED go-go music until I got to understand the bounce element and then seen the females go CRAZY to it :whoo: I was glad that I happened to be in DC during the golden era with bands like Backyard, Rare Essence, NE Groovers, Proper Utensils, Huck a bucks etc...:wow:

Most OTs tend to change their whole view on GoGo when they listen to it live, go to a concert, hood picnic, block party, house party, or a nightclub and feel the vibes from the crowd, which is usually mixture of :stylin::mj::blessed::whoo::whew::krs::noah::youngsabo::birdman::lawd::demonic: :shaq:all at once lol.

People not from out here tend to think GoGo is “just noise” when that couldn’t be further from the truth. It’s a whole fusion genre that has its own movement, culture, soul, flavor, dances, lingo, lifestyle, history, ingredients, and influences. It may sound like one of the most unorthodox type of music to the uninitiated; but with an open mind and an appreciation for musicality and Black music history, it’ll be easier to see why all of us DMV natives rock wit GoGo so hard no matter what people think about it.

And amen to the females breh :wow:
 

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Go go been dead for a while. I can drop some classic shyt for you if you want

Since he said late 80s/early 90s, I’m guessing his age is between early 40s to early 50s, so he may appreciate more classic joints from the First Golden Era (as I call it) of the late 80’s to mid 90’s than we would from the Bounce Beat Era (mid 00’s to present) which is the stuff I came of age with.
 
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