David Lee being hurt at the start of last season changed NBA history.

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Random shyt like this happens all the time. If Hurricane Hugo didn't hit the U.S Virgin Islands destroying the islands only olympic sized swimming pool then a young Timothy Theodore Duncan would never have decided to pick up basketball and instead stuck to swimming.

fukk Hugo B.....:mjcry:

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:ohhh: THE 2013 WARRIORS WERE SUPPOSED TO BEAT THE SPURS?
(WENT 6 GAMES WITH NO DAVID LEE ON TOP OF THAT)

:ohhh:THE 2014 WARRIORS WERE SUPPOSED TO BEAT THE CLIPPERS WITH JERMAINE ONEAL AS THE ONLY CENTER ON THE ROSTER?
(WENT 7 GAMES)

WARRIORS WON
23 (STEPH PLAYED 26 GAMES THAT YR)
47
51
GAMES

THEY WERE ALREADY ON THE UPSWING...
STEPH/KLAY PLAYED IN WORLD CUP AND CAME BACK BETTER.
COUPLE THAT WITH DRAY IMPROVING EVERY SEASON
AND KERR WALKED INTO A TITLE TEAM...

STEPH & DRAY IMPROVED EVEN MORE AND LUKE WALTON WALKED INTO AN EVEN BETTER TEAM.
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2013 playoffs - Manu, Parker and Splitter all had lingering injury issues - they weren't going to beat the Spurs regardless if Lee was playing or not.

2014 playoffs - they would've beaten the Clippers if Bogut was healthy, but then would've lost to the Thunder in the next round.

All that would've changed had Jackson had a healthy squad in his last two seasons was ONE more series win. They were NEVER a contender under him.

See -
Under Jackson, they were 30th in the league in passes per game - 246.6 (Nuggets were second to last yet they still averaged 17 more passes than they did - 261.9)

Under Kerr, they were 7th in the league in passes per game - 315.9 (plus they were 1st in assists per game, 1st in secondary assists per game, 1st in assist to pass percentage and 1st in potential assists).

They literally went from the worst passing team in the league to arguably the best (from Jackson to Kerr).
- Went from having a league-average offense to one of the greatest offenses in history
- Went from being the worst off-ball movement team to the best off-ball movement team
- Kerr brought Barnes into the starting lineup and gave him more of a role on offense - allowing Iggy to help run the 2nd unit - bottom 10 bench to arguably the best bench in the league (Jackson did neither of these things)
- Kerr gave Bogut more of a role on offense, centered around his strengths
- Demanded more from Curry on the defensive end to tighten a weak point in the starting lineup, strengthened the 2nd unit defense (went from top-10 to one of the best defenses in the modern era)
- Jackson's inability to handle different backgrounds/personalities on the team led to disharmony in the lockerroom/players not being used right
- Kerr managed minutes more effectively which allowed his squad have a more balanced, reliable offense/defense, gave more players offensive freedom - which in turn not only allowed them to be fit and healthy for the playoffs but also allowed Kerr to switch up lineups/rotations in the playoffs to get them over humps.
 

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Mark Jackson was not a good coach and was holding them back. Stop bringing it up.
This shyt is crazy. If a single player on that team had a positive thing to say about him, I'd get the obsession, but all of them obviously can't stand dude and were happy to see him gone.

Like, why are only non-Golden State fans with absolutely zero interest in the team caping for a fired coach that the front office, coaching staff, and players alike despised?
 

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Eh, if Lee stayed healthy what happens if during the regular season Draymond outperforms him and then Kerr eventually makes the switch? Kerr is the same dude that decided to bring AI off the bench because he figured Barnes would work better with the starters, then made the switch to bench Bogut in the finals, he's not the type to just stick with the same plan if the numbers or the team's performance says otherwise. Lee doesn't even look like he can play in the rotation of any playoff team right now, not sure what makes you think Green wouldn't have eventually beat him out for that spot. I don't think that injury killed Lee's career, his time has just passed.
 

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It interrupts the narrative that the coli loves to harp on.... I've even chastised some posters for calling Mark Jackson an idiot in hindsight for not starting Dray over Lee\etc using similar logic..... ::francis:

O.P. is right tho..... shyt changed the landscape of how the game is to be played going forward
How about the narrative that Jackson molded them into a playoff team? His :cape: team literally can't cite any reasons his coaching made them better but just celebrate that the team record improved during his stay. If you're going to :cape: for Jackson , you have to do it for Scott Brooks too. Their circumstances are nearly identical.
 
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How about the narrative that Jackson molded them into a playoff team? His :cape: team literally can't cite any reasons his coaching made them better but just celebrate that the team record improved during his stay. If you're going to :cape: for Jackson , you have to do it for Scott Brooks too. Their circumstances are nearly identical.


No they were not... and for you to suggest as such... well..... :snoop:
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
Eh, if Lee stayed healthy what happens if during the regular season Draymond outperforms him and then Kerr eventually makes the switch? Kerr is the same dude that decided to bring AI off the bench because he figured Barnes would work better with the starters, then made the switch to bench Bogut in the finals, he's not the type to just stick with the same plan if the numbers or the team's performance says otherwise. Lee doesn't even look like he can play in the rotation of any playoff team right now, not sure what makes you think Green wouldn't have eventually beat him out for that spot. I don't think that injury killed Lee's career, his time has just passed.


Coaches are extremely stubborn and Lee would have been putting up his usual numbers, Draymond wouldn't have been with the starting unit so his impact would have been different coming off the bench. Kerr decided to bring Iguodala off the bench in preseason, they had their entire championship lineup on day 1 of the regular season with Barnes & Dray starting, if Lee isn't hurt he would have been in the lineup with them winning games and they would have been reluctant to change it.


Lee was pegged as the starter, Dray doing what he did wasn't something they really expected.
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
Mark Jackson insisted on an ISO heavy offense in the 4th. Look at how the warriors win close games these last two seasons. Look at how they blew games with Mark Jackson because of a stagnant crunch time offense.


Yeah, they're running the triangle with Dray being the initiator, that is 100% on Kerr.
 
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Coaches are extremely stubborn and Lee would have been putting up his usual numbers, Draymond wouldn't have been with the starting unit so his impact would have been different coming off the bench. Kerr decided to bring Iguodala off the bench in preseason, they had their entire championship lineup on day 1 of the regular season with Barnes & Dray starting, if Lee isn't hurt he would have been in the lineup with them winning games and they would have been reluctant to change it.


Lee was pegged as the starter, Dray doing what he did wasn't something they really expected.
I still think Draymond would eventually started before the end of the season, especially since his minutes would've increased as the season went on. :manny:
 
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