David Icke And Hip Hop (Disses Jay Z, Mentions Public Enemy, Talks On Hip Hop In General & More)

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Dude, how in the fukk can yoou credit Icke for "predicting" the Great Recession of 2008? Mothafukkas were calling it as early as Feb 2007 that we were gonna have a crash; like I have proved throughout this debate, he makes the most bullshyt generalized statements and when something blatantly obvious happensl, ya'll give him credit????

Ok, I'm predicting that in the month of August, a tornado will touch down in America somewhere....so in September you will be calling me a prophet too right?:rudy:
 

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I haven't gone through the list properly yet, there's something specific things I am trying to find though. David Icke didn't write that list though lol. The main one I saw on that list was the first one which was true. I'm not trying to convince anybody on David Icke anyway, that isn't my intention, just putting the information out there and can either be dismissed or researched further, there's certain things he's said that I think are very important though, and others that should be discussed, whether ultimately those points are proven or discredited.

That's my point man. He has no specific ideas or predictions...I've read on Icke before and he's just as fraudulent as I remember...like Alex Jones, he spreads disinformation and makes money off of Dionne Warwick-like predictions, exploiting ignorant people...he's a charlatan, a hack, a fraud...we can't keep giving double agents like him credibility when they haven't earned anything other than grief and disgust
 

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Dude, how in the fukk can yoou credit Icke for "predicting" the Great Recession of 2008? Mothafukkas were calling it as early as Feb 2007 that we were gonna have a crash; like I have proved throughout this debate, he makes the most bullshyt generalized statements and when something blatantly obvious happensl, ya'll give him credit????

Ok, I'm predicting that in the month of August, a tornado will touch down in America somewhere....so in September you will be calling me a prophet too right?:rudy:

Lol when did I credit him with that? I didn't write that lol. I cited what I credit him for, one being the Jimmy Savile thing, which is pretty important, had more people actually listened to him it would have prevented 100's of children and others being abused. And a bunch of things in the The Cutting Edge DVD. Basically he isn't just mindlessly rambling and making things up aimlessly because some of his points a long time later are now going under scientific research. I'm sure like most people not all of what he says is true, as people make errors and mistakes, my point is some is true and some of it which is is very important and valuable. I don't know how he got his information, but he did have the balls to say it while that evil b*stard was alive.
 

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When you say someone who is knighted in the UK and HIGHLY respected like Jummy Savile was is a pedophile and necrophiliac it sounds absolutely insane, but it ended up being true. There's other people he's mentioned, including top level politicians that he's called out that are now coming out to be true too.
 

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So because he made a broad generalized guess that a celebrity was a pedophile, he's a truth telling prophet about the world????

Breh do you know how many people predict celebs to be pedophiles and do you know that some are pedophiles? How does this give Icke any credibility???

But he predicted that people would wear turquoise tracksuits! The man is a prophet!
 

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Just come back here quick. David Icke was very specific about some things which turned out to be true. He has had some predictions that are somewhat vague that also turned out to be true, so you could say that could be perceptiveness or whatever, but some things have been very specific and seen to be outrageous and ridiculous at the time then turned out to be true.

Like I said, I reiterate, I'm not a David Icke follower, David Icke himself says don't be a follower of him, what he says is he's just passing on information so do with it as you wish. I'm just passing on the information further. I don't think it's a bad thing to do that, even someone like Hitler (not comparing them) sometimes you have to discuss something and bring it to the debate table to either dismiss it or praise it. I have no issues with people not liking David Icke or not believing. But my personal opinion is that he says a lot of brilliant shyt, and since he's said a number of factually correct things way ahead of most others at times that means I will at least have a listen to what he says. I'm sure he's wrong at times like everyone, but I don't believe he is a fraud or con man personally.
 

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So because he made a broad generalized guess that a celebrity was a pedophile, he's a truth telling prophet about the world????

Breh do you know how many people predict celebs to be pedophiles and do you know that some are pedophiles? How does this give Icke any credibility???


It wasn't broad and generalized though, it was specific, including necrophilia, about someone who was looked at as a respectable figure. Jimmy Savile was a knight in England and was friends with the royal family (David Icke also calls them out), and Margaret Thatcher who he spent a lot of time with, and other higher ups, it's clear it was part of a large scale of abuse, that was almost unbelievable in it's scale, David Icke has been saying this for years. So anyone to me who is calling out these evil people deserves attention. If he had been listened to then and the shyt had been investigated it could have saved the abuse of many children, and sometimes even murders. They found children's bones and shyt in some of these places. And in terms of Satanic rituals mentioned, numerous victims have come out saying that was a part of many of their abuses too. I'm not sure you've researched this thoroughly bro. Like I said I'm not saying David Icke is the second coming or anything, but this particular point for calling this shyt early and bring more attention to it I have to respect. Like I said if people would have investigated this it could have stopped a lot of abuse of children and people in general.
 

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He didn't just call out one person, it was several people and mentioned a sinister ring which clearly exists. I don't necessarily see anyone mentioning the word prophet or even someone who makes predictions. I see him as someone who has ideas, philosophies and information. He is highly intelligent.

I remember after seeing this when it originally aired I started going much deeper into his work...

 

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The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
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People think I'm some kind of prophet, but I'm not someone who gets my information from the ether. I've been given the coordinates about how things work.
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If you have a pre-conceived idea of the world, you edit information. When it leads you down a certain road, you don't challenge your own beliefs.
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Official history is merely a veil to hide the truth of what really happened. When the veil is lifted, again and again we see that not only is the official version not true, it is often 100% wrong.
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When you look in the mirror, what do you see? Do you see the real you, or what you have been conditioned to believe is you? The two are so, so different. One is an infinite consciousness capable of being and creating whatever it chooses, the other is an illusion imprisoned by its own perceived and programmed limitations.
David Icke
 
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