Daredevil Season 2 - (Official Thread/Out Now)

[Swiggy]

They're a broke independent lawfirm.... No one said they was gonna be rich...

I know, I know

It's just sad... like when I see a nikka warehousing J's, and I just want a new pair of Concord 11's

 

[KravenMorehead™]

Not really a thought that needs its own thread, but the one thing that's hard about hero stories, are when black people doing things get caught up in a hero's bust up.

The visual of a hero imposing his will on a black person

Okay, back to the piff

my nikka turk

 

[Swiggy]

Spoiler

The Punisher ain't about that kiddy porn life

 

[Keep1TReaL]

Just finished episode 1




Punisher ain't playing.

 

[TheGodling]

Just finished it, before getting into it let me answer this first:

Punisher took ALOT of torture and punishment to just be pimp walking around murking everybody left sad right. You can give Matt and Elektra a pass due to Matt's "senses" and Elektra being black sky but Frank was just a regular human. Dude got his ass handed to him by Matt, tortured by the Irish, and was just fukking up hardened prison goons like he's wolverine or something.

Other than that excellent season

There have been times in comics lore where they've hinted at Frank having made a deal with an entity that feeds of his murders as "sacrifices", like a downplayed Ghost Rider or Moon Knight. The closest it's ever been confirmed is in Ennis' Punisher MAX run (which is non-canon to the regular Marvel universe I should add) where during the base Frank was stationed on was caught in a vicious ambush by the Vietcong. During the fight he hears a voice promising he could live and continue the war, but at a price. Frank fights his way through the entire Vietcong after his troops have long been killed and ends up the sole survivor. When he goes home he meets his family at the airport, seeing them in a vision of a skull, implying they are the price he has to pay for the continuation of his war.

In this season they've at least somewhat alluded to a similar kind of mystifying like Clancy Brown's story about Frank clearing the LZ on his own killing 30+ guys single handedly and the story about how the bullet in his head actually killed him for a second before he woke up. Since the character works better grounded in realism they never outright confirm it and leave this stuff up in the air like ghost stories, but that's the reasoning you're gonna get.

About this season:

I liked it a lot. Not sure if I liked it better than season one since unlike others Karen and Foggy never bothered me, not then and not now, and I had no problems with how it concluded either.

I get why they did it but I didn't really like they pretty much had the Punisher and Elektra stories play out separately.

Spoiler

From the third episode up until he got out of jail the whole Punisher plot seemed like an excuse to have Karen and Foggy do something while Matt was busy with Elektra. Sure, it still worked but it was kinda lazy too. Also, since Matt met Elektra in college (at a party Foggy and Matt went to together), does Foggy know about her or not? Because it seems he doesn't and they kept the two apart very deliberately like they knew there was some serious inconsistency there.

Although the fight scenes were still pretty good, there was also a ridiculous amount of shadow punches and kicks in this shyt. Like every fight scene seemed to have two moments at the very least where you can flat out see the punches don't connect. It just came off as sloppy and lazy and I certainly didn't remember that shyt being so blatant in the first season. I feel like at least half the fight scenes could've used reshoots to make them work.

Speaking of lazy, that whole Punisher plot reveal was pretty lazy as well.

Spoiler

Kinda knew Clancy Brown had to come back because why cast an actor like him for such a bit part as a trial witness? The fact Frank's military history plays into his Punisher origin was awfully convenient and setting the Blacksmith up as such a serious player even the Chinese were scared of him, only to have his whole operation eviscerated so quickly is kinda laughable.

So yeah, plot wise there were definitely some issues but all the Elektra/Hand stuff was great, the bit appearances by our big friend in prison were awesome and the cast overall nailed it, but more importantly, this show really feels like Daredevil the comic on your screen without any compromises. Just a straight one-on-one translation with at best some switching around the plots to get around to the famous storylines more quickly, but other than that spot-on. I wish everybody else involved in doing comic book adaptions takes note of this.

 

[LinusCaldwell]

Just finished it, before getting into it let me answer this first:



There have been times in comics lore where they've hinted at Frank having made a deal with an entity that feeds of his murders as "sacrifices", like a downplayed Ghost Rider or Moon Knight. The closest it's ever been confirmed is in Ennis' Punisher MAX run (which is non-canon to the regular Marvel universe I should add) where during the base Frank was stationed on was caught in a vicious ambush by the Vietcong. During the fight he hears a voice promising he could live and continue the war, but at a price. Frank fights his way through the entire Vietcong after his troops have long been killed and ends up the sole survivor. When he goes home he meets his family at the airport, seeing them in a vision of a skull, implying they are the price he has to pay for the continuation of his war.

In this season they've at least somewhat alluded to a similar kind of mystifying like Clancy Brown's story about Frank clearing the LZ on his own killing 30+ guys single handedly and the story about how the bullet in his head actually killed him for a second before he woke up. Since the character works better grounded in realism they never outright confirm it and leave this stuff up in the air like ghost stories, but that's the reasoning you're gonna get.

About this season:

I liked it a lot. Not sure if I liked it better than season one since unlike others Karen and Foggy never bothered me, not then and not now, and I had no problems with how it concluded either.

I get why they did it but I didn't really like they pretty much had the Punisher and Elektra stories play out separately.

Spoiler

From the third episode up until he got out of jail the whole Punisher plot seemed like an excuse to have Karen and Foggy do something while Matt was busy with Elektra. Sure, it still worked but it was kinda lazy too. Also, since Matt met Elektra in college (at a party Foggy and Matt went to together), does Foggy know about her or not? Because it seems he doesn't and they kept the two apart very deliberately like they knew there was some serious inconsistency there.

Although the fight scenes were still pretty good, there was also a ridiculous amount of shadow punches and kicks in this shyt. Like every fight scene seemed to have two moments at the very least where you can flat out see the punches don't connect. It just came off as sloppy and lazy and I certainly didn't remember that shyt being so blatant in the first season. I feel like at least half the fight scenes could've used reshoots to make them work.

Speaking of lazy, that whole Punisher plot reveal was pretty lazy as well.

Spoiler

Kinda knew Clancy Brown had to come back because why cast an actor like him for such a bit part as a trial witness? The fact Frank's military history plays into his Punisher origin was awfully convenient and setting the Blacksmith up as such a serious player even the Chinese were scared of him, only to have his whole operation eviscerated so quickly is kinda laughable.

So yeah, plot wise there were definitely some issues but all the Elektra/Hand stuff was great, the bit appearances by our big friend in prison were awesome and the cast overall nailed it, but more importantly, this show really feels like Daredevil the comic on your screen without any compromises. Just a straight one-on-one translation with at best some switching around the plots to get around to the famous storylines more quickly, but other than that spot-on. I wish everybody else involved in doing comic book adaptions takes note of this.

Foggy does know he even says it.

Also what's up with those kids that were getting their blood drain what is their angle?

 

[dutchie]

Foggy does know he even says it.

Also what's up with those kids that were getting their blood drain what is their angle?

Yeah Matt and Foggy had a convo about her in an episode leading up to their firms break up.

Would love to know what the purpose of those kids was.

 

[TheGodling]

Foggy does know he even says it.

Also what's up with those kids that were getting their blood drain what is their angle?

Yeah Matt and Foggy had a convo about her in an episode leading up to their firms break up.

Would love to know what the purpose of those kids was.

There was? I don't remember that shyt at all.

 

[Brandsdale]

one episode left I held out as long as I could after binging 5 episodes on Thursday

this new season of Archer, Luke Cage and Sense 8 gonna have to hold me down until then

 

[Brandsdale]

Spoiler: DD made me forget how fine Deborah Ann Woll is.

red hair suits her better

 

[dabestkeptsecret]

This season was amazing
Every episode had a major event or cliffhanger that kept the story moving

Unlike season 1 i def never got bored during an episode.

I thought the fight scenes were way more memorable than season 1. The stairwell scene, the prison, and the diner scenes all blow away anything i saw in season 1

I liked this version of fisk than the one we saw in season 1. I guess they were trying to show that he's starting to really become the king pin this season
That scene with matt was hilarious

Spoiler: Matt vs king pin

Matt: if u dont leave my city alone im going to mess with your old lady and only spend 6 dollars
Oh u can go visit her but you'll never really be with her
Fisk: and smacks matt hard as hell on that table. Made that guy bounce back and almost fall,
Had Matt looking at the kingpin like

 

[Ribbs]

Finished it on Friday. Great great season.

This is how you do a 13 episode show. Not one episode was wasted and every show based on a comic book adaption should take note. Do arcs! ARCS GOD DAMMIT! It will literally save you tons of time writing a show this way. Matt was great, Elektra was great, Punisher was the highlight (obviously), Foggy did bother me but he was right, Matt wasn't doing his job. The Black Sky sub plot was the only issue I had with the season, I thought they could've been a bit more clear on what exactly it was.

She is knock-kneeded tho

ALL women are knock-kneeded.

 

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

Realistically, shouldn't he know of them? Pretty sure this series takes place following the first Avengers movie.

assuming DD is happening around the same time as Jessica Jones, in her series she makes mention of Captain America and the Hulk so yes he gotta know

 

[wire28]

ep 5 : is it yours it is until we get caught

sex in that nasty ass ring whens the last time they cleaned that shyt

got damn at DD going creed on that gang nikka in the chair




ep 6: you cant take on the castle case DD, think of your legal career!

gen pop!? you cant put him in there with those criminals!
not guilty!trial of the century comin up
lol at the trick on the 11th floor them nikkas was prolly really fukkin too, elektra be trying to have sex everywhere
the people vs frank castle free my nikka frank





ep 7: at the start of the episode the black people in the jury all were on the punisher side real recognize real
lied to foggy again how many more lies Matt, how many more



ep 8: elektra no dont kill him! oops my bad
that arrow elektra no hes just a kid
kingpin




ep 9: newbies wear white then popped him upside his head

jesus christ that prison fight scene!! The Punisherrrrrrrr
hol up i thought that ninja nikka was dead



ep 10: it was this bytch fault franks family is dead foggy look out!
got damn matt is always gettin his ass beat kingpin fukked him up and then yolked him up and forced him to listen to him ramble for 10 minutes
stick sending the goons at elektra thats fukked up man!
damn they done turned them kids into children of the corn



ep 11: at daredevil running up the stairs after the ninjas, that had me cracking up for some reason he looked so like he really wanted the elevator but hadnt met his fitbit goals for the day yet
frank is a earth wind and fire fan
that diner fight bernthal be whoopin ass
this nikka red always gettin in the way! dammit red!

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

There was? I don't remember that shyt at all.

Lol foggy even mentioned her in season 1