Danny Garcia, Robert Guerrero, and Shawn Porter all turned down offers from Roc Nation as well.

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Every time there's news about another offer being rejected, the Haymon fighters look worse. More simple minded bullshyt from fighters. They're counting money they don't have and turning down guaranteed $.

And in some of these cases, the offers were never made in the first place. That Broner $40 mil offer looking funny in the light...
 

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Every time there's news about another offer being rejected, the Haymon fighters look worse. More simple minded bullshyt from fighters. They're counting money they don't have and turning down guaranteed $.

And in some of these cases, the offers were never made in the first place. That Broner $40 mil offer looking funny in the light...


Breh, how's it looking funny in the light, when 3 MORE Haymon fighters are saying they were contacted the same way (by a few Camelettes instead of Jay-Mon himself)?:mjpls:
 

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Breh, how's it looking funny in the light, when 3 MORE Haymon fighters are saying they were contacted the same way (by a few Camelettes instead of Jay-Mon himself)?:mjpls:
First, I can tell you for a fact the $40 mil number isn't true. AB is lying. Trust me.

Second, Jay Z is the chairman of Roc Nation. Roc Nation Sports is a subdivision of the company. And the boxing division is a subdivision of RNS and is run day to day by Gary Shaw and David Ischkowitz. Phil Knight doesn't recruit basketball players for Jordan Brand...ever. He has employees for that. Why should Jay Z be calling these guys personally? That makes no sense. He's hired people to handle that. Should he have hand delivered the bid envelope for the Quillin fight too? That's for small time promoters like 50 Cent.
 

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Every time there's news about another offer being rejected, the Haymon fighters look worse. More simple minded bullshyt from fighters. They're counting money they don't have and turning down guaranteed $.

And in some of these cases, the offers were never made in the first place. That Broner $40 mil offer looking funny in the light...
The most successful people take a leap of faith. Al Haymon is showing brothers how to be bosses and not cap their potential. Signing to Roc Nation would be signing up for a 9-5 honestly.
 

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The most successful people take a leap of faith. Al Haymon is showing brothers how to be bosses and not cap their potential. Signing to Roc Nation would be signing up for a 9-5 honestly.
You're right about success and leaps of faith. But how are you not taking a leap of faith by signing with a new player in the boxing game that is a power player in Sports and Entertainment? And how is it like a 9 to 5 again?

I understand your point about empowering boxers, especially as it relates to Floyd, Mayweather Promotions, and that ridiculous CBS deal. But Roc Nation Sports has done a lot for it's athletes so far. They got Kevin Durant the biggest sneaker contract in the history of sports. And the list goes on with them. It's less of a risk to trust Al Haymon. It's safe. There's no leap there. And we all know it isn't about any of that anyway. Al Haymon tells them what to do and they follow him blindly because he has monopolized the belts, the talent, and the road to Floyd.
 

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You're right about success and leaps of faith. But how are you not taking a leap of faith by signing with a new player in the boxing game that is a power player in Sports and Entertainment? And how is it like a 9 to 5 again?

I understand your point about empowering boxers, especially as it relates to Floyd, Mayweather Promotions, and that ridiculous CBS deal. But Roc Nation Sports has done a lot for it's athletes so far. They got Kevin Durant the biggest sneaker contract in the history of sports. And the list goes on with them. It's less of a risk to trust Al Haymon. It's safe. There's no leap there. And we all know it isn't about any of that anyway. Al Haymon tells them what to do and they follow him blindly because he has monopolized the belts, the talent, and the road to Floyd.
Once they sign the dotted line, they're told when and where they are going to fight without much input if any. They'll do all the footwork with gaining their popularity and not be able to benefit the most from it. What can Roc Nation offer these boxers that they cannot get themselves? A guaranteed capped check. Probably sign those cats to some 360 deals.
 

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Once they sign the dotted line, they're told when and where they are going to fight without much input if any. They'll do all the footwork with gaining their popularity and not be able to benefit the most from it. What can Roc Nation offer these boxers that they cannot get themselves? A guaranteed capped check. Probably sign those cats to some 360 deals.
How do you know any of that? You haven't seen any of the contract language and none of us know how they'll deal with big name fighters. Don't just assume nonsense. We have seen Al Haymon's ridiculous contracts. Those are terrible. And they can offer them more guaranteed $ than they've ever had and better marketing opportunities outside of boxing than anyone. They're throwing money around like nothing.
 

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The fighters -- who wished not to be named -- tell us that just like Broner's courting, Jay Z never personally reached out ... sending his people to make contact instead and we're told it rubbed the fighters the wrong way.

Yall already beat me to it, because this isn't gonna cut it in boxing. You really have to earn the trust of a fighter for them to sign their career over to you.
 
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