So Buffalo had the highest paced offense in the league for years, yet Dallas a team whose strength was Emmitt and their O line forced Buffalo who wanted to play fast, to keep up with them?? So the Buffalo team who came back from a 35-3 deficit with a backup QB was outpaced by a Dallas team who preferred to grind you out?? So many contradictions, so little time. So the NYG could handle the SF but Buffalo was too fast for them but Buffalo was too slow for Dallas even though Kelly featured a way more faster, diversified attack. Youre a Coli poster too. I dont care who praised that.overrated shyt. The offenss won the game. Why is it when I named all the memorable plays from SB 25 non featured the Giants defense?? The Cowboys whupped the Bills because they played aggresive and not scared..I like.how you ignored Washington whupping them. They didnt come up.with.some exotic scheme featuring extra DBs to shorten the game.. The Buccaneers dominated Oakland..that NYG performance wasnt dominant, not even close.Talk about context but not realize Dallas offense was even better than Bills offense and forced the Bills to try to keep pace with them. Or the fact that Giants defense was primarily bigger but slower which was a bad matchup against the Bills fast paced offense that's why Bill's scheme is considered brilliant. Or the fact that the Dallas defense which was younger and faster which matched up well vs that Bills offense.
Context
Other coaches and ex football players have come out and praised that defensive gameplan as worthy of HOF. But since a Coli poster said it doesn't deserve it's praise, I guess it's not as good as the football guys says it is
Danny Amendola: Tom Brady is the Patriot way
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Letting go of Branch was an L for one reason:In regards to letting players go "early", let's go over some of them:
-Seymour: He was traded and the Patriots received a first round pick for him and didn't have to take up a bunch of cap space. He was still an elite player at the time, but they went with Wilfork instead.
-Law: Cut by the Patriots....had one season with the Jets before he was RELEASED by the Jets.
-Milloy: Went to Buffalo after leaving New England, and did not make another pro-bowl or all-pro team. BeliGOAT saved cap space and won two more Super Bowls over the next few years while Milloy was in Buffalo.
-Branch: Went to Seattle and never had a season like he had in New England.
-Vrabel; Moved for Cassel and a second round pick after a first-team all-pro season. Never sniffed another pro-bowl.
-Cooks was traded after one year for a first round pick while having an injury history.
I can go on and on, but not a single "L" I can find for BeliGOAT..
Even though he wasn't great in Seattle, he and Brady were very good together and they could have REALLY used a receiver like that in that dreaded 2006 season.
Reche Caldwell dropped key passes that would have closed out the 2006 AFC title game. Branch would have caught those shyts.
Law could have helped them on 2005 and 2006 as well
You ignored the Asante Samuel and Chandler Jones mentions. If he trades Gronk to Detroit, they DONT win the Superbowl in 2018. But if BB had his way, he wouldve been gone. Cooks and Amendola are far better than NKeal Harry and Phillip Dorsett.In regards to letting players go "early", let's go over some of them:
-Seymour: He was traded and the Patriots received a first round pick for him and didn't have to take up a bunch of cap space. He was still an elite player at the time, but they went with Wilfork instead.
Point conceded.
-Law: Cut by the Patriots....had one season with the Jets before he was RELEASED by the Jets.
I love how you omit that Ty Law led the league with 10 ints. He couldnt have helped NE?? He got cut because of a new regime. He went to KC with Herm Edwards and started for a playoff team and picked Manning off 2 more times.in the playoff game.
-Milloy: Went to Buffalo after leaving New England, and did not make another pro-bowl or all-pro team. BeliGOAT saved cap space and won two more Super Bowls over the next few years while Milloy was in Buffalo.
He replaced him.with Harrison. Rodney is a superior player. Point conceded.
-Branch: Went to Seattle and never had a season like he had in New England.
And??.the point is he was far superior to Caldwell or Gaffney and it arguably cost them the Superbowl that year.
-Vrabel; Moved for Cassel and a second round pick after a first-team all-pro season. Never sniffed another pro-bowl.
Vrabel was getting old.
-Cooks was traded after one year for a first round pick while having an injury history.
Cooks went to the Superbowl as a 1,000 yd WR for the LA Rams the next year. Brady had amazing chemistry with Cooks. Most 20 yard plays in a single season with Brady. Even more than Moss.
I can go on and on, but not a single "L" I can find for BeliGOAT.
I was just listing people off the top of my head from 2001-present. I stopped after Cooks. There were others between there too.
I don't consider Jones a bad one as he needed to get paid big dollars, and didn't show up when it mattered. Too inconsistent.
And, it's MUCH better to let someone go a year early than extend them.
Ex: Jared Goff
You know I have a response within the quote just in case you didnt notice. Chandler Jones had a 17 and 19 sack.season since he left. He was only 25. Maybe he wasnt all the way.there yet. You cant be that inconsistent when youre.putting up Bruce Smith numbers..Letting someone go a year early is disastrous when it potentially costs you a ring. Ie Law, Gronk(if the trade to Det went through).
I told yall this for a damn near decade.
coaches don't create no culture. it's the players.
name me a player who badmouthed Brady. ZERO. they play because of Brady, not belichick.
@FabTrey who do you consider the top 10 quarterbacks of all time? I really like your analysis and how you break shyt down.
Frfr. Talking bout the Ravens only won because the Colts moved to Baltimore?
That dude is not mentally well.
In regards to letting players go "early", let's go over some of them:
-Seymour: He was traded and the Patriots received a first round pick for him and didn't have to take up a bunch of cap space. He was still an elite player at the time, but they went with Wilfork instead.
-Law: Cut by the Patriots....had one season with the Jets before he was RELEASED by the Jets.
-Milloy: Went to Buffalo after leaving New England, and did not make another pro-bowl or all-pro team. BeliGOAT saved cap space and won two more Super Bowls over the next few years while Milloy was in Buffalo.
-Branch: Went to Seattle and never had a season like he had in New England.
-Vrabel; Moved for Cassel and a second round pick after a first-team all-pro season. Never sniffed another pro-bowl.
-Cooks was traded after one year for a first round pick while having an injury history.
I can go on and on, but not a single "L" I can find for BeliGOAT.
Chandler Jones was one who has been elite since he left. Granted y'all won 2 rings without him and went to 3 straight Super Bowls.
He used to be but not anymore
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You don't care if other NFL coaches think it's a genius game plan because you don't think so
GOAT NFL defensive player -
“How good was Bill Belichick? All you have to do is check out the game plan he came up with before we played the Buffalo Bills in Super Bowl XXV…” Taylor wrote. “They scored points like they were playing a video game. Most of the experts didn’t give us a chance to win against them. I couldn’t blame them. … None of the teams in the league could handle it.
“[But] Belichick came up with a plan.”
But because you said so it ain't that impressive
"It lacks SportsCenter highlight like plays so I ain't impressed"
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Comparatively speaking, its nothing special. BB has way better gameplans that were more dominant and more successful. They just beat the 49ers in Candlestick who were arguably the best NFL team of all time. How is beating the Bills by a narrow margin so unforeseen?? Especially the Bills were manhandled by their subsequent Superbowl opponents. You keep acting like the NYG were the little engine that could. Before Simms got hurt, they were neck and neck with the 2 time defending Superbowl champs. That 14 point spread was prisoner of the moment. The Bills did win the AFC title game 51-3 but the Raiders were shell shocked. Bo Jackson's career ending hip injury was the previous week..im.supposed to believe a defense with LT, Pepper Johnson, Carl Banks, Everson Walls and Leonard Marshall is undermanned??You don't care if other NFL coaches think it's a genius game plan because you don't think so
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I get it breh. You're not impressed. Lawrence Taylor was impressed. But what does he know?
Im impressed by TB vs Oakland, im.impressed by Seattle vs Denver, impressed by NYG vs NE. So a performance where the defense doesnt get a sack or force a turnover and let Thurman Thomas run all over you is historically great?? A gameplan that concedes the run to.shorten.the game?? The Steel Curtain.didnt get concede yards, the 85 Bears didnt concede yards, the 2000 Ravens didnt concede yards..Im.done with this topic. We can agree to disagree.I get it breh. You're not impressed. Lawrence Taylor was impressed. But what does he know?
@FabTrey who do you consider the top 10 quarterbacks of all time? I really like your analysis and how you break shyt down.
It's hard to do top 10 because honestly i really struggle ranking them. for ex. i really have hard time deciding who's better between Favre and Young. it's hard. you could flip a coin.
I would rather do a tier ranking. i'll leave out unitas, bradshaw, staubach, starr, graham, and etc. i didn't get to watch them in person. and unlike basketball, it's really hard to rank them.
Tier 0
Brady - The untouchable. The greatest winner and leader who plays with a chip on his shoulder. Presnap mastermind, pocket awareness no one can match.
Tier 1
Manning - The football genius. The franchise savior who defines professionalism. Instantly makes the worst team better. The coach on the field with a presnap ability only Brady can match.
Montana - The natural. A poised cold assassin. A godlike pocket presence with underrated mobility.
Tier 2
Marino - The pocket mastermind with a sweatiest release. The greatest thrower inside of the pocket.
Favre - The ultimate gunslinger. Possibly the top 3 peak of time. Durability no one can match with an innate ability to thread the needle like no other.
Rodgers - Mr. Talent, the greatest thrower of the football. A complete package who can improvise.
Young - Mr. Perfect. A great combination of accuracy, mobility, and football brain.
Elway - The ultimate warrior. A tough competitor who wills his team to a victory. Stats doesn't show how brilliant he was.
Tier 3
Brees - The most accurate thrower of the football within 30yds. Makes everyone around better. The greatest 6fter who overachieved.
Warner - Top 5 peak of all time. A great passer with a natural instinct to make game changing throws.
Aikman - The ultimate alpha who wins and makes clutch throws.
Moon - A brilliant passer. Top 5 arm talent of all time.
And then next tier would be Kelly, Big Ben, Russ, McNabb, McNair and so on.