Bilz
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Anthony Davis
D'ANGELO RUSSELL
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JR SMITH BEST YEARS WITOUT BRON
SHUMPERT BEST YEARS WITOUT BRON
MOZGOV SUBSIDED IN HIS FINAL YEAR WIT BRON
BIRDMAN BIGGEST CONTRACT IN DENVER PRE-BRON (WHERE HE HAD HIS BEST YEARS LOL)
BOOBIE WENT FROM AVERAGING 6-1 TO 12-3 THE YEAR BRON LEFT
TRISTAN WAS A DOUBLE DOUBLE MACHINE UNTIL BRON CAME TO CLEVELAND.. AND THEN RESUMED HIS DOUBLE DOUBLE WAYS ONCE BRON LEFT
MATTHEW DELEVEDOVA NUMBERS WENT UP AFTER LEAVING CLEVELAND
KCP NUMBERS WENT UP AFTER LEAVING THE LAKERS
CARUSO NUMBERS WENT UP IN CHICAGO
THT WAS CONSIDERED TRASH UNTIL HIS RESURGENCE WITH UTAH LATE LAST SEASON
MALIK MONK PUT UP BETTER NUMBERS PLAYING LESS MINUTES IN SACRAMENTO
RUI PUT UP WAY BETTER NUMBERS BEFORE COMIN TO LA
LOL
JUS SAYIN……
@Sccit, you of all people can't tell what a player's "best years" are. No one cares that players like Boobie and TT got more shot attempts in some lottery season, that doesn't get you paid.
The ACTUAL topic was Bron getting guys paid. Let's check that:
JR's largest contact by far was the 4 years $57 million he got after 1.5 years with Bron. The contact before had only been 3 years $18 million and the Knicks were dumping him for nothing.
Shump's largest contact was the 4 years $40 million he got in 2015 after half a year with Bron. The Knicks were dumping him for nothing.
Cause he was coming off offseason surgery. He got 4 years $64 million contract on the strength of his Bron years, by far his largest payday ever.
Birdman's 2 years $10.4 million was the best per-year payday of his career. He only got two years cause he was 36. Before Bron he hadn't even been able to make a roster in 6 months and was reduced to 10-day contracts.
Boobie got 5 years $21 million in 2007 after two seasons with Bron, by far the biggest payday of his career. lol at you bragging about those empty lottery stats in 2011 when he was OUT OF THE LEAGUE the very next year.
TT got 5 years $82 million after a year with Bron, by far the biggest payday of his career. No one cared about those 11ppg seasons on lottery teams. Why did he only get offered 2 years $18 million after his supposed "best" year without Bron?
Delly got 4 years $38 million after two seasons with Bron, by far the biggest payday of his career. If his #'s were better without Bron, then why did he only get minimum contacts afterwards?
But his 4 years $37 million contract came from playing with Bron.
But his 3 year $31 million contract came from playing with Bron.
Yet his 2 year $20 million contract came from his season playing with Bron.
Washington straight dumped Rui off for 2nd round picks and then he's signing a 3 year $51 million contract solely off of one postseason with Bron.
You don't live in reality. All of those players with the exception of Mosgov were either undrafted/end of the 2nd round picks or straight dumped by their former teams. Then they play with Bron and are immediately elevated to generational wealth. You can't deny reality. The numbers don't lie.
The ACTUAL topic was Bron getting guys paid. Let's check that:
JR's largest contact by far was the 4 years $57 million he got after 1.5 years with Bron. The contact before had only been 3 years $18 million and the Knicks were dumping him for nothing.
Shump's largest contact was the 4 years $40 million he got in 2015 after half a year with Bron. The Knicks were dumping him for nothing.
Cause he was coming off offseason surgery. He got 4 years $64 million contract on the strength of his Bron years, by far his largest payday ever.
Birdman's 2 years $10.4 million was the best per-year payday of his career. He only got two years cause he was 36. Before Bron he hadn't even been able to make a roster in 6 months and was reduced to 10-day contracts.
Boobie got 5 years $21 million in 2007 after two seasons with Bron, by far the biggest payday of his career. lol at you bragging about those empty lottery stats in 2011 when he was OUT OF THE LEAGUE the very next year.
TT got 5 years $82 million after a year with Bron, by far the biggest payday of his career. No one cared about those 11ppg seasons on lottery teams. Why did he only get offered 2 years $18 million after his supposed "best" year without Bron?
Delly got 4 years $38 million after two seasons with Bron, by far the biggest payday of his career. If his #'s were better without Bron, then why did he only get minimum contacts afterwards?
But his 4 years $37 million contract came from playing with Bron.
But his 3 year $31 million contract came from playing with Bron.
Yet his 2 year $20 million contract came from his season playing with Bron.
Washington straight dumped Rui off for 2nd round picks and then he's signing a 3 year $51 million contract solely off of one postseason with Bron.
You don't live in reality. All of those players with the exception of Mosgov were either undrafted/end of the 2nd round picks or straight dumped by their former teams. Then they play with Bron and are immediately elevated to generational wealth. You can't deny reality. The numbers don't lie.
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THE FACT THAT U CREDIT BRON FOR ALL THOSE CONTRACTS IS HILARIOUS
FOR INSTANCE, ANYONE WATCHING KNOWS THT WAS PUTTIN UP 40+ POINT GAMES IN BRONS ABSENCE AND LOOKED LIKE TRASH WHENEVER BRON WAS BACK
BUT U KNOW HOW TO TWIST THAT KINDA STUFF TO FIT YOUR NARRATIVE
NEVER CHANGE
DoubleClutch
Superstar
I’m just going with the Coli narrative on him being bad at defense
I’m sure he’s capable defensively just off his size as a guard. Maybe he has slow feet
JR, Shump, Boobie, Mosgov, Birdman, Delly, and TT all had chances in their prime to get those contracts without Bron. None of them did so. Why not? Caruso, THT, Monk, and Reaves were unheralded no-names before they came to Bron's squad, why didn't they have the hype already if they could have done it without him? And Rui was considered a borderline bust, who dumps a lottery pick for 2nd rounders if they think he's worth anything?
You suggested that no one had gotten paid off of playing with Bron. It provably happened, whether you want to admit that or not.
LOL, anyone watching knows that THT barely reached 40 points exactly ONCE in his Laker career and that was in a blowout loss. Other than that, he never even reached 30, much less 40.
THT was relevant in the league because he was a Laker while Bron was making the Lakers relevant, and Bron had a hand in hyping him up. Put a player with THT's skill set on the Detroit Pistons and he would have been lucky to get $3 million/year. Watch right now - if he doesn't improve significantly from his 2023 performance, then his next contract ain't gonna be as good as his last one even with the raised salary cap.
You're the one who tried to twist random shyt to fit your narrative, I just pointed out that every single one of those players got their big contract WITH Bron.
Nothing has to be twisted when the straight numbers are clearly in my favor.
Rakim Allah
Superstar
Yeah he’s not quick of feet but his arm reach gives Klay problems especially now since Klay has slowed down. DLO may not always be able to guard players physically but he knows how to read offenses on D, friend.I’m just going with the Coli narrative on him being bad at defense
I’m sure he’s capable defensively just off his size as a guard. Maybe he has slow feet
SEMANTICS
THT WAS A BEAST WIT LEBRON GONE AND MEDIOCRE WIT HIM AROUND
WE ALL SAW IT
THOSE PLAYERS GOT CONTRACTS BASED ON WINNING WITH SUPERTEAMS…. VERY DISINGENUOUS TO CREDIT LEBRON ANY MORE SO THAN TO CREDIT KYRIE, WADE, BOSH, SPOELSTRA ETC.
LIKE I ALREADY PROVED, BRON ACTUALLY HINDERED THOSE GUYS STATISTICALLY AND HAD THEY NOT BEEN ON SUPERTEAMS THEY WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY GOTTEN DEVALUED DUE TO BRON
DoubleClutch
Superstar
I just wanna see what Reaves does on team USA cause I still think he’s overrated/overhyped
Jalen Green or Cade should be on in his place
Jalen Green or Cade should be on in his place
No he didn’t… Klay wasn’t playing within the offense and was just jacking shyt up.. on no planet DLO is locking up Klay stop it
lol - Boobie in 2007 was on a superteam? JR, Shump, Delly, TT, and Mosgov getting their exposure in the 2015 playoffs when Kyrie/Love were out was a "superteam"? KCP and Caruso got their big contracts in 2021, THT and Monk in 2022, and Reaves/Rui in 2023, because the 2021-2023 Lakers were some sort of great superteam?
4 of the 5 names you tried to give credit to were on the Heat, while only ONE of the 13 players I named was a Heat player. You really are flailing at this point.
Mediocre stats on shytty teams don't get you big contracts. Proving you can contribute to a winner is what teams want. And Bron has turned a lot of career losers into proven winners.
You still haven't answered why none of those players could pick up the big contract in all the years they spent not playing with Bron.
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Rakim Allah
Superstar
Yes he did. He took Klay out of his game plus DLO was able to go back at him offensively because he had the ball in hands a lot more in the GS series unlike in the Nuggs series when the Lakers turned to Bron Ball.
Reeves even sent DLO a thank you card and titled it “The Klay Stopper”. While Mike Malone sent Coach Ham and Bron a joint thank you card that was titled “The DLO Stoppers”, friend.
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I ANSWERED IT U JUST NOT PAYIN ATTENTION
BOOBIE IS LITERALLY YOUR BEST EXAMPLE AND THATS A GUY WHO GOT A CONTRACT FOR $4 MIL PER YEAR
THE REST OF EVERYONE U NAMED GOT THEIR GLORY OFF WINNING WIT SUPERTEAMS
EVEN IF LOVE AND KYRIE WENT DOWN IN THE FINALS, THE FACT THAT THE SUPERTEAM GOT THEM TO THE FINALS IS WHAT GOT THEM PAID
ANY TIME A TEAM GOES TO THE FINALS OR PLAYS WINNING PLAYOFF BASKETBALL, THE PROMINENT PLAYERS ON THAT TEAM WILL ALWAYS GET PAID
AS USUAL, BRON FANS WANA GIVE ALL THE CREDIT TO HIM
LIKE CLOCKWORK
GreatestLaker
#FirePelinka
Yes he did. He took Klay out of his game plus DLO was able to go back at him offensively because he had the ball in hands a lot more in the GS series unlike in the Nuggs series when the Lakers turned to Bron Ball.
Reeves even sent DLO a thank you card and titled it “The Klay Stopper”. While Mike Malone sent Coach Ham and Bron a join thank you card that was titled “The DLO Stoppers”, friend.